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Old 09-19-2005, 03:03 PM   #16
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Originally posted by musicman_ace
I'll disagree just for the fun of it. There are two types of computers that are invulnerable

1. Computers that don't have any cables connecting them to a network. (in reality, I suppose they are vulnerable to some poor fool screwing it up)
2. Computers that are plain turned off.


Both options don't really help anyone though.
So I'm good with my wireless modem
 
Old 09-19-2005, 03:08 PM   #17
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I'll disagree just for the fun of it. There are two types of computers that are invulnerable

1. Computers that don't have any cables connecting them to a network. (in reality, I suppose they are vulnerable to some poor fool screwing it up)
2. Computers that are plain turned off.


Both options don't really help anyone though.
Even those two kinds are potentially prone to theft, and
thus, data-loss, or worse, things like identity theft and
abuse of credentials. Computer security isn't a status quo,
it's a mind-set, an awareness in the owner/administrator of
the machine. Some Linux distributions have highly in-
secure defaults (e.g. Linspire who sets the user up as
root - a notoriously bad idea), others will have apps
setuid that aren't necessarily required to have it, others
will have weak default permissions. Given Linux origin
as a spawn of Unix, and Unix having been in the grind
of exploits for over thirty years gives it a potentially safe
heritage - but as I said: it's only as safe as the user makes
it. And if the user thinks he's safe he has probably already
lost the war ... ;}


Cheers,
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Old 09-19-2005, 05:50 PM   #18
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This is what is so frustrating about linux.There is no easy way.I mean for example browsers like opera and firefox can be installed without dependency problems whatsoever.why not programs that are so important like firewalls?
All programs have dependencies wether they're web browsers or firewalls, the version Firefox downloaded from mozilla.org is probably statically compiled though. If you're having depdendency problems then you either don't have the right repositories setup or you're using a distro which simply doesn't have many programs packaged for it. I've used several Linux distros lately and I can assure you that these dependency issues are a thing of the past in them.
 
Old 09-19-2005, 06:23 PM   #19
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Doesn't really belong in this topic or this forum, but ...

Code:
ldd /usr/local/firefox/firefox-bin
        libmozjs.so => /usr/local/mozilla/libmozjs.so (0x40033000)
	libxpcom.so => /usr/local/mozilla/libxpcom.so (0x400b5000)
	libplds4.so => /usr/local/mozilla/libplds4.so (0x40190000)
	libplc4.so => /usr/local/mozilla/libplc4.so (0x40193000)
	libnspr4.so => /usr/local/mozilla/libnspr4.so (0x40198000)
	libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x401cd000)
	libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4021f000)
	libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x40223000)
	libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x404f2000)
	libatk-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0 (0x4055e000)
	libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0x40577000)
	libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 (0x4058c000)
	libpangox-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpangox-1.0.so.0 (0x40593000)
	libpango-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0 (0x4059e000)
	libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x405d8000)
	libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x4060b000)
	libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x4060f000)
	libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4068f000)
	libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40759000)
	libsmime3.so => /usr/local/mozilla/libsmime3.so (0x4077c000)
	libssl3.so => /usr/local/mozilla/libssl3.so (0x407a1000)
	libnss3.so => /usr/local/mozilla/libnss3.so (0x407c4000)
	libsoftokn3.so => /usr/local/mozilla/libsoftokn3.so (0x40832000)
	libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x408a3000)
	libXp.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so.6 (0x408f4000)
	libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x408fc000)
	libxpcom_compat.so => /usr/local/mozilla/libxpcom_compat.so (0x4090b000)
	libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x40928000)
	libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x409df000)
	libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x409e7000)
	libXft.so.2 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2 (0x40b04000)
	libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x40b16000)
	libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x40b3e000)
	/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
	libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0x40ba8000)
	libXi.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x40bab000)
	libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x40bb3000)
	libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXfixes.so.3 (0x40bb6000)
	libXcursor.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXcursor.so.1 (0x40bbc000)
	libXrender.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x40bc5000)
	libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 (0x40bcd000)
	libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x40bf3000)
	libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x40bfc000)
	libexpat.so.0 => /usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 (0x40c14000)
	libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x40c34000)
Should be easy enough not to meet some of those ;)


Cheers,
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