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Old 03-17-2009, 01:20 AM   #1
Atikae
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[IpTables]Syn Flood protection and apache lag


Hello.

I've a problem when I try to protect my Debian 5.0 against Syn_Flooding.
I set tcp_syncookies = 1 and tcp_syn_retries = 3

I've this rules :
Code:
-A INPUT -j banned_ip 
-A INPUT -j floods_protect 
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT 
-A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT 
-A INPUT -j ports 
-A INPUT -i eth0 -p icmp -j ACCEPT 
-A floods_protect -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -m limit --limit 1/sec --limit-burst 3 -j RETURN 
-A floods_protect -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j DROP 
-A floods_protect -i eth0 -p udp -m limit --limit 10/sec -j RETURN 
-A floods_protect -i eth0 -p udp -j DROP 
-A floods_protect -i eth0 -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type 8 -m limit --limit 5/sec -j RETURN 
-A floods_protect -i eth0 -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type 0 -m limit --limit 5/sec -j RETURN 
-A floods_protect -i eth0 -p icmp -j DROP 
-A ports -p udp -m udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT 
-A ports -p tcp -m tcp --dport 953 -j ACCEPT 
-A ports -p tcp -m tcp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT 
-A ports -p tcp -m tcp --dport 1193 -j ACCEPT
With this rules, server is protect against syn flooding, but apache doesn't respond or take too long time to respond with this.
I try to change limit-burst and limit 1/sec, but protect doesn't work or apache doesn't respond.

Have you any idea to protect apache against syn flood but have a fluid apache ?
Did I try lighttpd ?

Thanks (sorry for language mistakes, is not my motherly language) .
 
Old 03-17-2009, 06:28 AM   #2
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you dont need to use iptables for syn flood protection.

sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_syncookies=1
sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_max_syn_backlog="2048"


this will turn on syncookies to track half-open connections and then limit the amount of half-open connections to 2048
 
Old 03-17-2009, 05:30 PM   #3
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I assume that syncookies et modifying backlog size is not efficient.
Actually I've this :
Code:
net.ipv4.tcp_syn_retries = 3
net.ipv4.tcp_syncookies = 1
net.ipv4.conf.all.rp_filter = 1
net.ipv4.tcp_max_syn_backlog = 2048
When I try to SYN_FLOOD my secured server, it becomes hardly slow.
Have you any idea ?

Thanks.
 
Old 03-17-2009, 05:45 PM   #4
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TCP SYN cookies only prevent service from being denied due to full SYN queues. If your performance is suffering because the SYN flood is also clogging your uplink, there's nothing you can do about that. Verify that network usage is at sane levels.
 
  


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