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the_darkside_986 09-19-2006 03:32 PM

If more professional commercial game developers started supporting Linux, then it would be useful for a distro to support such a close-and-reopen-desktop feature.

Dralnu 09-19-2006 03:35 PM

Honestly, just drop KDE/Gnome and run a light WM. Fluxbox, Openbox, ect. are all good, and require almost nothing system-wise.

Electrolyte 09-19-2006 03:36 PM

I won't be touching Vista. I've done my move to Linux and I love it.

raska 09-19-2006 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by the_darkside_986
I really wouldn't want to go into fail safe mode + bash and use vi to edit a file everytime I wanted to switch between desktop and a game, but it would be really neat if the x11 would close the desktop system and then launch the game each time I wanted to launch the game from the desktop environment....

Neither would I like such hassle but I could live with it...

Here's what I found in the man 1 xinit doc:
Code:

XINITRC        This  variable  specifies an init file containing shell commands to start up the initial windows.
              By default, .xinitrc in the home directory will be used.

This is workable guys! He are my thoughts: set that environment variable to point a "specially" modified .xinitrc file, say that I want to play UT2004 then I would have copied and modified a custom file on .xinitrc.ut2004, I just should type
Code:

export XINITRC="~/.xinitrc.ut2004" ; startx
startx should look for that file and execute the given file and not the default .xinitrc one. I find this easier than editing files everytime, it's just an environment variable ;) - just delete it with
Code:

unset XINITRC
and issuing startx again it should go back to your favourite window manager by executing the default ~/.xinitrc file (for those that keep one modified one in their home dir, I do).

I can't try this now as I'm at the office and I don't have any tryable games here, but I shall do ASAP

iceportal 09-21-2006 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin of Wonder
I think Vista will be worth the wait though. The longer Microsoft takes making it, hopefully the fewer flaws it will ship with.

"He's got hiiiiigh hopes, hiiiiiiigh hopes..."

I find this thought difficult to manage. Windows OSes take an average of six years to be released.

Six years.

In the past six years, we've found hundreds of thousands of flaws and vulnerabilities with Windows XP.

And then we think that a new system will be better?

Just when you thought it was safe to go swimming, someone drains the pool.

Looks can kill, but so can a poorly designed OS.

And so far, I've seen nothing else from MS.

rkelsen 09-21-2006 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by iceportal
And so far, I've seen nothing else from MS.

But history never repeats! :D

Dralnu 09-21-2006 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkelsen
But history never repeats! :D

If it only last for a few minutes, maybe

DJNolz83 09-21-2006 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rkelsen
But history never repeats! :D

:tisk:Those who fail history are doomed to repeat it.:tisk:

schneidz 09-25-2006 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raska
This is workable guys! He are my thoughts: set that environment variable to point a "specially" modified .xinitrc file, say that I want to play UT2004 then I would have copied and modified a custom file on .xinitrc.ut2004, I just should type
Code:

export XINITRC="~/.xinitrc.ut2004" ; startx
startx should look for that file and execute the given file and not the default...

here is my two sense. it is kinda' drastic but should ideaaly work:

[script=ut2004.ksh]
Code:

mv ~/.xinitrc ~/.xinitrc.bak
echo /path/to/game > ~/.xinitrc
killall X
#startx    #my xserver auto-restarts on a kill command
mv ~/.xinitrc.bak ~/.xinitrc
#startx    #might be needed to restart x after game shuts down.

what do y'all think?

Dralnu 09-25-2006 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schneidz
here is my two sense. it is kinda' drastic but should ideaaly work:

[script=ut2004.ksh]
Code:

mv ~/.xinitrc ~/.xinitrc.bak
echo /path/to/game > ~/.xinitrc
killall X
#startx    #my xserver auto-restarts on a kill command
mv ~/.xinitrc.bak ~/.xinitrc
#startx    #might be needed to restart x after game shuts down.

what do y'all think?

Seems interesting. Someone else will have to try it since I just don't feel like messing with that kind of thing atm

raska 09-26-2006 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dralnu
Seems interesting. Someone else will have to try it...

I would try it gladly but I'm currently stucked without a proper videocard (I sold my former PCI-ex card and the current one is a temporary Trident PCI 2Mb card, it gives me 800x600x16 max and I can barely play StarCraft)
The nVidia's 7900GTX shipment that I was expecting got canceled... dammit...
Today I bought online this one (Mexico-hosted page, in spanish) and I'm hoping to have it in my hands on two weeks or less time...

vvkozmenko 09-27-2006 11:07 AM

I am going to stay with Mac OS X and Linux.

I am pretty much proficient in OS X, and I just got started learning Unix\Linux. Mac OS X Tiger is capable of runnin on even G3 of 1999. There is no question if Vista is going to be even close to this in terms of supported hardware.

So far, I love Mac and I fell in love with Linux from the first sight too (Fedora Core 5 & Puppy).

Why should I even think about Vista? Gaming? There is plenty of games for Mac already, and, I guess, since its popularity is on the rapid rise, there will be more games for Mac in a year or two.

Otherwise, Mac and Linux satisfy all my digital needs.

It feels so good not to be brainwashed by MS!

Speaking of the other people, probably most of grandpas and grandmoms, for whom a computer is a kind of internet-enabled TV, would need to use whatever comes on the machine they buy (unless they go for Mac). If they preinstall it on the new PCs one day - an average brainwashed PC user will have no choice.

the_darkside_986 09-27-2006 12:36 PM

I really like Macs a lot too because that an old Mac was my first computer and throughout elementary school that's what we had. But walmart doesn't sell Macs for $350 (like my fairly up to date cheap Intel+Windows system), or at all, where I live. I don't think I've even seen them at Circuit City.

There are very few commercial games that interest me anymore. Freeware games are more fun and I should learn how to program myself instead of just playing them all the time. The only commercial game series that interests me that much is Grand Thef t Auto, and maybe super smash bros. I might get a Wii at some point, but if GTA4 is not released for Linux, I will not buy it on any platform. (PS3 and Xbox360 both look very disappointing.) I doubt that GTA4 will be for any OS other than Windows but I hate using Windows especially for gaming.

DJNolz83 09-27-2006 05:01 PM

I dont care what games are released. I am happy with the games I have at the moment.
Pretty soon, I hope to only be using windows as a gaming machine, and for work. I wont be upgrading to vista, except if I can get it for free. Windows XP serves my needs just fine at the moment. for everything else, there's linux

ctkroeker 09-27-2006 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DJNolz83
... I wont be upgrading to vista, except if I can get it for free...

Maybe lift it from Walmart? ;)


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