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Old 06-18-2019, 02:54 PM   #1
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Ubuntu Deprecates Support For 32-Bit Software


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I386 architecture will be dropped starting with eoan (Ubuntu 19.10)
 
Old 06-21-2019, 05:51 PM   #2
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An important notice from Ubuntu concerning the discontinue of i386 architecture.

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The middle of 2019 has now arrived. The Ubuntu engineering team has reviewed the facts before us and concluded that we should not continue to carry i386 forward as an architecture. Consequently, i386 will not be included as an architecture for the 19.10 release, and we will shortly begin the process of disabling it for the eoan series across Ubuntu infrastructure.
 
Old 06-22-2019, 03:27 PM   #3
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Needless to say, the Linux gaming community is in a panic about this, because most games (whether native or WINE) need 32-bit support and because Ubuntu has always been the base platform for both players and game developers.

As of now, here are the current developments:

1. Ubuntu will no longer be the distro that Steam primarily supports:

https://twitter.com/Plagman2/status/...106973698?s=19

2. Pop_OS!, which is based on Ubuntu, will continue to provide multiarch/multilib support

https://www.reddit.com/r/pop_os/comm..._32bit/ersbt6w

Pop_OS! is an excellent distro to play games on anyway:

https://youtu.be/Co6FePZoNgE

3. Ubuntu's own tests of game support on their pure-64-bit Ubuntu went as well as you'd expect:

https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/resul...an-19-10/11353

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Old 06-22-2019, 04:08 PM   #4
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Cloud is where Ubuntu makes money, they don't give a rat's ass about Linux desktop anymore.
 
Old 06-22-2019, 04:27 PM   #5
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On June 18, Canonical:
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We’re in discussions with Valve about the best way to provide support from 19.10 onwards.
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/i386-...-19-10/11263/2

Just 3 days later, Valve:
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Ubuntu 19.10 and future releases will not be officially supported by Steam or recommended to our users. We will evaluate ways to minimize breakage for existing users, but will also switch our focus to a different distribution, currently TBD.
https://twitter.com/Plagman2/status/1142262103106973698

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Old 06-22-2019, 04:41 PM   #6
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Will this be the age of Slackware as steam base?
nah they'll just use Fedora, Suse, or somthing.
but from what I read they are just not supporting it natively but they will still offer multilib. if I read it right.
 
Old 06-22-2019, 04:56 PM   #7
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Reading through ALL of the notes, postings, and comments, I am not seeing a complete stop of support for running 32-bit software or libraries on 64-bit Ubuntu.

There will still be compatibility options and ability to run 32-bit software on machines running 64-bit Ubuntu. What will stop is Ubuntu support for installing Ubuntu on 32-bit hardware. This seems far less troublesome, though it might complicate installation of games on some new builds. Frankly, Ubuntu is already far from my first choice for 32-bit virtual machines and 32-bit hardware. None of my operations, none of my games, will be negatively impacted by this decision.

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Old 06-24-2019, 12:57 PM   #8
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Thanks to the huge amount of feedback this weekend from gamers, Ubuntu Studio, and the WINE community, we will change our plan and build selected 32-bit i386 packages for Ubuntu 19.10 and 20.04 LTS.

We will put in place a community process to determine which 32-bit packages are needed to support legacy software, and can add to that list post-release if we miss something that is needed.
Statement on 32-bit i386 packages for Ubuntu 19.10 and 20.04 LTS

Looks like everything's okay now.

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Old 06-26-2019, 05:57 PM   #9
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Statement from Valve:

Update on Steam, Ubuntu, and 32-bit support

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Given the information we have on this new approach so far, it seems likely that we will be able to continue to officially support Steam on Ubuntu.
 
Old 08-21-2019, 06:15 AM   #10
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Depressing news, probably explains the reason why i cant update my linux on the laptop. I suppose old laptops are useless now! Wonder if i can put the google chrome operating system on it. Is mint still available in 32bit?
 
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Depressing news, probably explains the reason why i cant update my linux on the laptop. I suppose old laptops are useless now! Wonder if i can put the google chrome operating system on it. Is mint still available in 32bit?
Visit https://distrowatch.com/ and have a look at the HUGE number of distributions that still support 32-bit. While many of the pure 64-bit distributions still support running 32-bit software they only directly support 64-bit hardware. There are enough others that do support 32-bit hardware still. MINT and MINT-DE are still supporting i386, and they are not alone.

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Old 08-21-2019, 01:28 PM   #12
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This really wasn't what this thread was about, but Debian is probably going to have a 32-bit version indefinitely.
 
Old 08-21-2019, 01:35 PM   #13
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Using Sid myself, I find Steam working but am worried about the future. Then, seeing it's Ubuntu and the reasons and other considerations I think I ought to be OK.
Gaming on Linux is very recent ("big titles") but seems to be getting better. I'd love everything to be 64 bit but, apparently, some Windows developers didn't see it coming.
 
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Using Sid myself, I find Steam working but am worried about the future. Then, seeing it's Ubuntu and the reasons and other considerations I think I ought to be OK.
Gaming on Linux is very recent ("big titles") but seems to be getting better. I'd love everything to be 64 bit but, apparently, some Windows developers didn't see it coming.
Actually gaming on Linux was somewhat new in 1998. Playing the same games in Linux as you run onWindows is more new, and STEAM on Linus is a bit new. These days the news is how much game DEVELOPMENT for ALL platforms has moved to Linux. It is just getting better and better! ;-)
 
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If you want an actual 32-bit distribution and installation, a number of distributions are, in fact, discontinuing those.

If you just want a 64-bit installation that can run 32-bit software (games in particular), there is nothing to worry about. There was a brief scare with Ubuntu but they set that right pretty quickly.
 
  


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