Stephen Walli, Principal Program Manager at Microsoft - Ask Him Anything
Have you ever wanted to ask someone who deeply understands and has participated in open source for a long time, has sold a company to Microsoft and is now a Principal Program Manager there, a frank question about related topics and get a straightforward answer? This is your chance.
This opportunity came about as a result of the latest episode of Bad Voltage. I suggest listening to the segment before asking, as your question may have already been answered. Steph was one of the founders of Softway Systems, which was acquired by Microsoft in 1999. Their product was merged into Services for UNIX, and Steph spent the next five and a half years at Microsoft as a Product Unit Manager and then Business Development Manager. After a variety of roles elsewhere (Optaros, Outercurve, HP, Docker, and more), he’s now back at Microsoft as a Principal Program Manager, working in the Azure team on various open source related initiatives. After co-presenting in episode 2x25 Steph has kindly agreed to do an AMA-style discussion here. With the current transition ongoing and a changing attitude toward open source at Microsoft, I’m sure there are many questions. Please be civil. Thanks, Steph! –jeremy |
What exactly does Microsoft's "open source strategy" involve?
For example, which Microsoft services, API's, apps, etc is Microsoft planning to bring to Linux, that hasn't yet been made available by Microsoft on Linux? (eg. Microsoft Office, DirectX, etc) Where does Microsoft think it's "open source strategy" will take it? Is the above the main "crux" or "pillar" of it? Does Stephen Walli miss the UNIX style command-line? ;) |
What's Microsoft's real reasons and motives for getting involved in Linux?
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Microsoft Open Source Strategy
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The Microsoft engagement with open source is an evolution of its focus on developers. The company has always been about developers, and mostly developer led over its history. Open source is clearly important to developers in their use of languages and tools and platforms. Microsoft has shifted to align with what developers say is important. At the same time, Microsoft's own direct experience is growing in project big and small. TypeScript, .NET Core, and VS Code are all large projects with vibrant communities. Even smaller projects like ghcrawler garner community attention. The Linux team in Azure continues to participate in the kernel community. The Azure containers teams continue to participate in Docker and Kubernetes. I believe Microsoft's engagement in open source communities will continue to grow. It's why I came back. |
Microsoft and Linux
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Glad you still use the UNIX command-line, great tool isn't it? ;) I just have a few questions regarding Microsoft's previous stance on Linux; First, when you say Microsoft is "developer led", was this the case when Steve Ballmer was CEO? As I read something very interesting, in that, Steve Ballmer seems to have changed his stance on Linux; From http://www.zdnet.com/article/ballmer...now-i-love-it/ Quote:
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@jsbjsb001, I asked a couple of those questions on this show. May be worth a listen if you're interested.
--jeremy |
Well. This country boy had to read up on Azure first. Before posting. First thing I noticed. They are using Git Hub. Which surprised me a little.
https://github.com/Azure Cloud computing sites has bit me in the kiester, on file deletion in the past. With no input from me. So I quit using it. Invested in using personal Hard copy hardware instead. Already see warning sign words . Just my personal opinion. Citation: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/ov...edium=referral Quote:
Tried listening to the show. My brain lost track about 1/2 way in. I am not GPL savvy. The English accents throw me . Like I would throw them off, being from West Texas. |
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Gates was a developer first, as is Nadella now. Ballmer had a business background, but even he famously, loudly proclaimed on stage his understanding and support of the importance of developers. The datacenter is 50/50 Windows and Linux at this point. Some companies's have different ratios but in the end there are a large set of developers solving problems on Windows and another large group solving them on Linux. As Microsoft builds Azure out, we will go where our customers and developers take us. Security is a set of practices, experiences, and tooling. Every vendor worth their customers works diligently to ensure they're protecting their customers. The attack vectors for Windows server and RHEL, SLES, and Ubuntu are different, and I expect Microsoft, Red Hat, SuSE, and Canonical work diligently to protect their customers. That's the reality. I don't think Windows is more or less secure than RHEL. They're different. I do believe each company stands firmly behind their products. |
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Sorry for the late reply - I hadn't forgotten about it, just didn't have the time to reply. :) You sound different to what I was expecting, I thought you would have a deeper American voice - I **think** it's your voice I'm thinking of. I didn't realize that there was no video, just audio, you's should get it on video Jeremy. I will admit that I've only listened to half of it so far, but will try and catch the rest later on. Quote:
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I've gotta say that while it does seem like Microsoft have realized that their can't just ignore and/or try to push Linux aside, I don't get the feeling that their intentions are all pure. Yeah, I could be wrong and that's fine if I am, but it doesn't sound like it to me. |
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