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Old 02-15-2005, 07:00 AM   #76
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Typical M$$.
 
Old 02-15-2005, 07:50 PM   #77
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In the long run, competition will benefit both Microsoft users and Linux users. For too long, Microsoft has been overwhelmingly dominant, which can lead to complacency (witness the continuous security announcements they make week after week) but as viable alternatives such as Firefox and Linux make gradual inroads into the marketplace, both sides will be pressured to do more for the customer in terms of both price, functionality, service, etc. Personally I think it would be great if in a few year's time, the marketplace is pretty evenly divided between Linux, OS X, and Windows. We shall see -- J.W.
 
Old 03-15-2005, 06:44 PM   #78
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Nobody can bully us..not even Bill..In our country - Philippines, we only use windows for gaming platform but serious stuff..we stick to Linux..
 
Old 03-16-2005, 01:01 AM   #79
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Certainly a good competition will ensure quality software from either side. One thing ,though, that really worries me is that although more desktop users are taking to GNU/Linux, not many coders are switching over from the .Net stable. Sure, we have dedicated people in our fold who are tirelessly making up for this disparity, but still, we need more people developing good software.
This is evident from the lame attempt by Ahead software to bring out a Linux version of their popular cd burning app. But if we need to breach the MS fortress, we'll need more firepower in our arsenal, and that's gonna come from our army of coders. Just an observation.
 
Old 03-23-2005, 11:40 AM   #80
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why are they doing that!?! are they forcing and manipulating the users what software to use!!!!! that's sucks!!!!!!!!!!! just leave all the opensource supporter cause we're not doing anything wrong we're just doing what we like and love...... it's loved for the FOSS... and it's not a crime!!!!!!!
 
Old 04-15-2005, 08:18 PM   #81
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looks like Asia is standing up

Besides games and word processing, I use linux for everything else for a year now... that's just because I haven't tried Wine or the newer OpenOffice yet

Way to go OpenSource!
 
Old 04-21-2005, 05:53 PM   #82
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More BS from rich people who are afraid of losing money. I hate this, it's incredibly distastful and stupid. China switched to Linux. Okay lets see. China's government does't give a rat's behind if products coming out of their country are direct copies of patented designs from other countries. Now. What makes Microsoft think that they are going to scare china into moving back to windows by calling opensource copywrite infringment? I think that windows has improved greatly since Win98, but it still take alot more computing power to run it smoothly, even if it isn't using all of the fancy graphical things.
 
Old 04-24-2005, 11:23 AM   #83
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Originally posted by J.W.
Personally I think it would be great if in a few year's time, the marketplace is pretty evenly divided between Linux, OS X, and Windows. We shall see -- J.W.
I just hope Linux gets enough market share to get more games, it runs alot faster than windows on the same hardware, so it should in theory be better for gaming. The only thing holding it back is the absence of games, only a few games are ported to Linux, and the average windows convert doesn't want to have to mess with winex etc.
 
Old 05-19-2005, 08:25 AM   #84
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Umm, well there is one problem there: driver support. While companies like ATI don't provide fully-functional drivers or release the necessary info to allow others to produce the drivers, linux does still have a problem. But I guess this will start to change as linux becomes more popular (I mean manufacturers producing better drivers).
 
Old 05-19-2005, 10:37 AM   #85
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I agree with Cyborg16. I am not using Windoze on any computer anymore and what I have been missing is first of all good drivers aviliable. I bought a laptop a couple of months ago and I still can't get the drivers for the video card working.

First of all we need drivers for video card, nVidia have good support AFAIK but ATi still needs to work on theirs. If we get more drivers in this area I believe that we will see more game companies porting their software to Linux.

Because hardware is not the only story, we also need more software vendors to open their eyes and interest towards Linux. I have heard rumours about Adobe porting Photoshop but I have not gotten this confirmed yet. Nero is also aviliable to Linux but that story is "messy" since they do not offer the burner "pure", you have to buy Nero 5 for WIndows if you want it for Linux (not sure here, correct me if I am wrong).

I do not demand that they release the code and make it open source, I just want more people to at least port their code, because we cannot rely on reverse engineering for ever. And stuff like wine won't do it either, we need it native.

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Old 05-20-2005, 03:26 PM   #86
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How could MS sue a whole country? Technically, when you sue someone in this situation it's because they have violated legal copyrights, but a country makes it's own laws and generally does not have to answer to anyone else. It's their country and surely they decide if their use of linux is legal, after all they make the laws there, not MS.

However, it's an interesting and telling sign of where the major global corporations like MS are going. For a single company to become so large, wealthy and opinionated that it would challenge a whole country is both fascinating and somewhat disturbing. I was only reading the other day that the big oil cartel companies like Shell and Exxon each make more revenue in a year than a large number of countries. I think Hungary and many of the former USSR were on the list, but I forget exactly who they all were now. Either way, it raises the question, could the giant corporations start to take over in the future? I can't say I like the average government, but the idea of living a world run by giant companies is even worse...
 
Old 05-20-2005, 06:26 PM   #87
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Originally posted by tomj54

It may seem funny that the biggest crook of all can now threaten governments with extortionist lawsuits, but unfortunately, it's no joke. Bill Gates can bury little countries like Thailand with meritless legal shenanigans to the point that they have no choice but to settle up with him.

Whew! Now I feel better. [/B]
No actually he can't. He can damn well try, that's for sure(and i have no doubt he will). But the countries can jsut ignore them. The only thing that could possibly force them into compliance would be military action. Given that MS lacks its own army, for now, i don't see the US government launching wars in asia for MS (not that MS wouldn't try to get them too, its just that no one in washington is willing to risk pissing China off.).


It really jsut shows their arrogance that these people believe they have the right to threaten other Nations. We're not talking about customers, or partners, but Nations. Talk about some balls, treating Nations as if they are inferior to you.
 
Old 05-20-2005, 06:35 PM   #88
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Either way, it raises the question, could the giant corporations start to take over in the future? I can't say I like the average government, but the idea of living a world run by giant companies is even worse...
Companies, corporations and money taking control, isn't that what makes USA so american? :P (no offense)
 
Old 05-21-2005, 01:02 AM   #89
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How could MS sue a whole country? Technically, when you sue someone in this situation it's because they have violated legal copyrights, but a country makes it's own laws and generally does not have to answer to anyone else. It's their country and surely they decide if their use of linux is legal, after all they make the laws there, not MS.

However, it's an interesting and telling sign of where the major global corporations like MS are going. For a single company to become so large, wealthy and opinionated that it would challenge a whole country is both fascinating and somewhat disturbing. I was only reading the other day that the big oil cartel companies like Shell and Exxon each make more revenue in a year than a large number of countries. I think Hungary and many of the former USSR were on the list, but I forget exactly who they all were now. Either way, it raises the question, could the giant corporations start to take over in the future? I can't say I like the average government, but the idea of living a world run by giant companies is even worse...
Copyright laws are the subject of international treaties, IIRC. Governments are technically as responsible to them as individuals. Not all governments and countries, but any signatories and their citizens. However, the only definitive enforcement would be military action, and luckily for us MS still lacks the power to instigate wars. For now.
 
Old 06-28-2005, 03:07 AM   #90
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With M$ saying that open Source is Illegal are they forgetting that Apple's OS X is based on the open soucre project, and furthermore Apple does have their Soucre Code available on their Developer's website. Excluding The GUI of OS X.

Apple's OS X is no more different then Linspire's Linux Based OS. And Linux has been around for a Very long time. M$ is just scared that they are goig to loose their market share in a few years. I work for Apple and because os Mac OS X there has been a huge increase of sales of Apple Machines and tons of Switchers, that come from Windows to Mac and just fall in love with the system and like how easy it is.

In a Few years I also see that Linux will be a little bit easier to learn for the newbie in to Linux, and with software such as CodeWevers Crossover and Transgaming's Cedega, you can still play your Win Programs and Games in linux with out a Dual boot machine, and with out windows installed on your computer.


I started using Linux back in 95, and now after almost 10 years since I've been playing with it, there has been a huge improvement.

So in Conclusion, M$ Bites the Big one, and they will loose there Market in a few more years hopefully


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i wanted to ask. It might be a dumb question but it has definetly made me interested in knowing. Could I install a Mac OS on my current computer running windows. Say for example a AMD 3500+ Athlon with 1gb ram....Is it possible to dual boot windows and mac. This would be a dream come true for a designer.

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