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Fabyfakid 11-18-2004 12:38 PM

Microsoft warns Asian nations to stop using Linux or face lawsuits.
 
Here's the story:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...osoft_linux_dc

What do you guys think?

I think it's good cause more people are going to get on the Open Source Community's side.

halo14 11-19-2004 10:33 AM

I think that's funny... It is true that many places are claiming Linux violates patents.. but there really isn't any proof yet... SCO is nuts.. but we all knew that...

I especially loved the part at the end... about how Microsoft is so much more secure than open-source... lol.. yeah okay...

jonr 11-19-2004 11:52 AM

It's typical of Microsoft's bullying tactics. That how imperialists operate, be they corporate or governmental.

masand 11-19-2004 01:36 PM

these acts show microsoft's sheer frustation of towards governemnts adopting LINUX

Donboy 11-19-2004 02:43 PM

Quote:

"We think our software is far more secure than open-source software. It is more secure because we stand behind it, we fixed it, because we built it. Nobody ever knows who built open-source software,"
Man, what a dumb ass. How did this guy get rich and powerful making stupid statements like this. That statement is bass-akwards.

We know EXACTLY who build open source software. Their name and email is usually ALL OVER the source code. On the other hand, we have NO IDEA who wrote the source for MS stuff, and I'm sure they won't tell us either, based on the idea that it's "trade secret" or whatever.

Of course HE knows who wrote their stuff because he's their boss, so I'm sure he's sleeping better at night. But how about looking at it from the customer's point of view for a change.

zajelo3 11-19-2004 03:48 PM

You can expect more of the same from Microsoft the more popular Linux becomes. Munich, Germany recently decided to switch all of their city computers over to Linux and pondered the patent issue before making the switch. Yet they decided to go ahead despite potential patent issues. In the US the NSA uses and openly supports SeLinux. Is Microsoft going to sue the NSA ( the US government) next? Also, wouldn't it be kind of hard to sue a communist governement like China? I really don't think they care about what a court in another country says.

Swift&Smart 11-20-2004 12:22 AM

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Also, wouldn't it be kind of hard to sue a communist governement like China? I really don't think they care about what a court in another country says.
zajelo3,I agreed with what you've said.But slightly difference.My point of view is every countries have its own law.How can you sue a country or citizen according to your country's law???? :confused:

On the other hand,Linux has been widely used in many developing or developed countries like China,Germany,Singapore and even the United States.And as zajelo3 said,how can you sue ASA?.Because there are a strong support behind Linux (Many Countries,IBM and lots of SME (Small Medium Enterprise).If you do something which affect a large group of people,you are not gonna be success. That's my opinion.

Why don't Microsoft fight with Linux face to face?Let's deal with the problems on Microsoft.
1.Your software is extremely expensive.Selling WinXP for about U.S. $300 in Hong Kong.
2.Your software is seriously spent computer resources,which makes you upgrade your hardware to an endless cycle.
3.Your software always talk about money with me,which offer no choice to me.
4.Most importantly,your software is not that secure.Internet Explorer is an example.


If no competition is in the market,as we all know,there are no advance/improvement in the market,too.

jschiwal 11-20-2004 07:18 AM

[QUOTE] Ballmer said the security fears some governments had about using Microsoft software were overblown.

"We think our software is far more secure than open-source software. It is more secure because we stand behind it, we fixed it, because we built it. Nobody ever knows who built open-source software," he added.[/QUOTE

What a bold face lie!

Ballmer's tactics with SCO was a stroke of genius, however. He persuaded the CEO of SCO to
engage in a baseless lawsuit for $40M, then the investment firm fronting for MS told SCO to stop
all support and development of UNIX and devote all resources to IP lawsuits. SCO complies, and
MS was able to eliminate their only commercial server competition for what for them is pennies.

Now MS's tactics is to claim Intellectual Property rights to the IP v4 and IP v6 protocols. If you want
to use the internet, you need their permission.
Meanwhile the RIAA is suing to make the Shift key illegal, thanks to the Millennium Copyright Act!

The lawyers in the US are totally out of control.

Even the Supreme Court was upset about congress increasing the term copyrights to 120 years!
They upheld the law by a 5-4 margin, because the right is in the constitution, but they all agreed that
the congress is ignoring the balance between the rights of the holder and consumers benefit.

bluedevlx 11-20-2004 07:38 AM

America is run by terribles
 
That ending QUOTE was just total bull. I don't even use linux like I do windows and have done but I love linux. And I've learned before I even tried installing linux for the first time 4 years ago that it is the most secure.

MS = Resource Hog . More Virus + Popups . Must upgrade your system for OPTIMAL performance
Linux = User controlled . Hard to learn . No Resource Hog . Less Viruses + Popups .

Conclusion: F**** Microsoft












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Microsoft wants to be Microhard and get into every humans life. FORCEFULLY
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daihard 11-20-2004 02:58 PM

I find it extremely unwise that Microsoft keeps yelling that Linux is bad because of this, that, blah, blah... Why can't they spend the energy on developing better software instead of resorting to stupid scare tactics like this one?

corbis_demon 11-21-2004 12:11 AM

Tactics like these are not going to scare off the aware users.What is even more ridiculous is MS threatning governments against using open source software.I think they have tried this before and have been told to try hell.Why in the world would someone use an inferior product,when other more robust and better ones are available?These are the signs of frustration of a giant in danger of losing it's grip on the home computing market.

manf0001 11-21-2004 05:49 AM

With M$ saying that open Source is Illegal are they forgetting that Apple's OS X is based on the open soucre project, and furthermore Apple does have their Soucre Code available on their Developer's website. Excluding The GUI of OS X.

Apple's OS X is no more different then Linspire's Linux Based OS. And Linux has been around for a Very long time. M$ is just scared that they are goig to loose their market share in a few years. I work for Apple and because os Mac OS X there has been a huge increase of sales of Apple Machines and tons of Switchers, that come from Windows to Mac and just fall in love with the system and like how easy it is.

In a Few years I also see that Linux will be a little bit easier to learn for the newbie in to Linux, and with software such as CodeWevers Crossover and Transgaming's Cedega, you can still play your Win Programs and Games in linux with out a Dual boot machine, and with out windows installed on your computer.


I started using Linux back in 95, and now after almost 10 years since I've been playing with it, there has been a huge improvement.

So in Conclusion, M$ Bites the Big one, and they will loose there Market in a few more years hopefully


Linux Rules :Pengy:

jonr 11-21-2004 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by manf0001


So in Conclusion, M$ Bites the Big one, and they will loose there Market in a few more years hopefully


Linux Rules :Pengy:

I just hope that, as my 65th birthday is coming up in January, I live long enough to see this blessed event.

Hardly anything short of the implementation of Universal Health Care (which I certainly never expect to see, due to the money-grubbing, constituents-be-damned attitude of U. S. legislators) would please me more. I would weep for joy to see the fall of Microsoft.

zajelo3 11-21-2004 05:35 PM

What Microsoft is doing is trying to promote FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) about Linux. Which at best will delay peoples and businesses migration to Linux. The only bad side to the Linux phenomena is that it will force Microsoft to improve their software or die. It's good to see a software movement that was mainly invented by people giving their time and expertise *freely*, doing so well against a "do anything to crush the competition", monopolistic, money loving corporation. While money is a necessity to live today, the *love* of money is the root of all evil, and Microsoft is a good example of that.

tomj54 11-21-2004 07:03 PM

OK, my rant:

a. The whole practice of using patent law to protect software is a legal abuse of the system. But thanks to stare decisis, it seems we're stuck with this odious practice.
b. MS hijacked almost all basic concepts of Windows fron Xerox (which was too stupid to know what it had developed -- they couldn't understand how computers would make people want to make more photocopies!).
c. Bill Gates was annointed a multi-billionare by IBM because it was stupid enough to pay him a fabulous royalty for a flawed operating system that he stole from a fellow programmer (the world's greatest con job!), and with that money he has been able to buy all the legal enforcement in the world to keep his crappy system so dominant.

It may seem funny that the biggest crook of all can now threaten governments with extortionist lawsuits, but unfortunately, it's no joke. Bill Gates can bury little countries like Thailand with meritless legal shenanigans to the point that they have no choice but to settle up with him.

Whew! Now I feel better.


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