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isd2301 05-16-2007 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jlightner
I don't think MS bought Xenix unless they later sold it to SCO because SCO Xenix existed long after MS Xenix went by the way side.

Xenix was a derivation of Unix not the other way around by the way.

Funny comment about MS "creating" anything. I can't think of a single idea they "created" - they simply took the ideas of others and ran with them. Next they'll be telling us that Firefox violates MS patents on IE because IE now has tabbed browsing. What MS is good at "creating" is hostile environments for people with less money than they have.

They have said it....Sort of. Browsers were specifically mentioned. Just more FUD!

cuchulain 05-16-2007 09:31 PM

How are we ever to discover how much open source code is in Windows Vista? It appears that stevie wonder is preparing the ground [and covering his posterior] to launch an attack with his latest FUD, that is, I very much suspect that Vista which was built largely using contractors who included GP Licensed code in their s/w; the functions in any OS overlap each other tremendously so why re-invent wheels? Perhaps this,in turn, could mean that M$ has infringed copyrights and/or their copyright claims are suspect hence the smokescreen of patent claims. Which is why s/w patents have been thrown out of the courts in most civilised countries.

DragonSlayer48DX 05-17-2007 03:31 AM

Free Advice for the Litigious
 
You would be wise to listen to the customers you're threatening to sue- they can leave you, especially if you give them motivation. Remember, they wouldn't be motivated unless your products were somehow missing the mark.

Open standards and open source software are literally changing the face of the planet - creating opportunity wherever the network can reach.

That's not a genie any litigator I know can put back in a bottle.

http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/

DragonSlayer48DX 05-17-2007 04:04 AM

Microsoft running scared from Linux
 
Many believe that Microsoft's public announcement smacks of desperation and is a risky move by a company that has run out of ideas.

http://www.addict3d.org/news/117664/...20from%20Linux

old6598 05-17-2007 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonslayer48dx
Open standards and open source software are literally changing the face of the planet - creating opportunity wherever the network can reach.

Yeah, that's what they said in 1967, the summer of love, you know utopia, free love, acid, psychedelic music etc. They said that in 1969 at woodstock, you know, classless society, robots will do all our work, more pot, free love, rock music, love and peace.

How did it end ?

We will enter a technological NIGHTMARE, the SINGULARITY. I have never seen a miracle of science that didn't turn from a blessing to a curse.

ErrorBound 05-17-2007 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by old6598
I have never seen a miracle of science that didn't turn from a blessing to a curse.

Penicillin?

V!NCENT 05-17-2007 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonslayer48dx
Linux couldn't possibly contain MS code because it works.

This is not about code but patents.

I really had a laugh from that sentence though. Probably becuase it is true. Linux is a hobby and what is so appealing about taking someone elses code? Especially from Microsoft? People love to make things themselves.

And uhm... Linux itself is the kernel. It's architecture is (allthough I do not know but beleave that) completely different because it is somewhat Unix-like. Allthough both Linux and NT are posix compliant. Appart from the kernel, is not all the 'fun' stuff in Windows .NET? So how are you going to (want to) use that in C or C++?

V!NCENT 05-17-2007 09:20 AM

Your very lucky, mr old6598, that this board does not, unlike the Microsoft boards, ban people and delete their posts for being negative about their Operating Systems.

Dragineez 05-17-2007 09:46 AM

Maybe Yes, Maybe No
 
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Originally Posted by ErrorBound
Penicillin?

Both a very good and a very bad example. I've always been glad I was born after WWII because of antibiotics. But their overuse has caused the evolution antibiotic resistant bacteria, germs, and viruses. Some really deadly forms of tuberculosis are nearly untreatable now. Scary thought.

On a side note, perhaps we should stop feeding the troll.

Hyakutake 05-17-2007 10:48 AM

@old6598

Is some one paying you to write here? What is your purpose?

You seem to be more than just a micro$oft fan/adept/whatever.

AFAIK LQ is the biggest linux forum (I guess :) ) and you are posting here to spread FUD around. You have lost your arguments. If you want to pay or get payed by micro$oft no one cares here, at least I don't.

If you have proof of what you are saying then say it. Your/micro$soft tactics don't work here.

brianL 05-17-2007 11:24 AM

He's keeping me entertained anyway. Every circus needs a clown.

crashmeister 05-17-2007 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hyakutake
@old6598

Is some one paying you to write here? What is your purpose?

Do you reeaally think somebody would be actually dumb enough to pay for that :confused: :confused:

vxc69 05-17-2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by crashmeister
Do you reeaally think somebody would be actually dumb enough to pay for that :confused: :confused:

I think Hyakutake is just bewildered, like most of us, about old6598's intentions so much so that believing stupid things is the only road left to tread on.

crashmeister 05-17-2007 01:22 PM

So am I but if there is money to be made with it I want to know where I sign up ;)

DragonSlayer48DX 05-17-2007 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by old6598
Yeah, that's what they said in 1967, the summer of love, you know utopia, free love, acid, psychedelic music etc. They said that in 1969 at woodstock, you know, classless society, robots will do all our work, more pot, free love, rock music, love and peace.

How did it end ?

We will enter a technological NIGHTMARE, the SINGULARITY. I have never seen a miracle of science that didn't turn from a blessing to a curse.

First, M$ was never a blessing, they were already a curse with MS-DOS v1.0. Stolen code, hacked and sold back to the original owner... you remember, don't you? Sure, BG won in court. But "Not Guilty" doesn't always mean "Innocent". Sometimes it just means that the prosecutor didn't present the facts properly. And computing has gone downhill ever since. Litigations and sly marketing practices put M$ where they are, NOT good software.

Secondly, Linux is not a miracle of science. Some good ol' boys figured out how to make their PCs work without M$'s crapware and wanted to share the idea. Period.

Let's not forget the fact that of all the patent infringements M$ is claiming against Linux and OSS, not a single one has previously been tested. And why is M$ taking the low road, bolstering their claims publicly and not providing much-wanted info concerning which patents instead of using the legal, ethical practice of giving someone the chance to write around the patents?

My first guess is that it's all BS, just like M$ and their crapware.

Edited to add: Microsoft Patent Threat Against Linux Futile, Risky

http://macobserver.com/article/2007/05/16.11.shtml

"Microsoft's recent claim that the Linux OS may violate Microsoft patents is a sign that Microsoft is running out of ideas, according to ITWire on Wednesday. The tactic will be futile due to the nature of Linux, and could even pose a risk for those patents."

Nuff said.


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