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jeremy 06-25-2018 07:46 PM Turns Eighteen
I'm proud to announce that LQ turned 18 today! Id like to once again thank each and every LQ member for their participation and feedback. While there is always room for improvement, that LQ has remained a friendly and welcoming place for new Linux members despite its size is a testament to the community.

To say that feedback has been absolutely critical to our success is an understatement. As has become tradition, I'd like to use this thread to collect as much feedback as possible about LQ. What are we doing well and where can we improve? Where are we failing? What can we do to ensure long time members remain engaged and willing to help? What can we do to ensure new members feel welcome? What should we be doing differently?

As part of our 18 year anniversary, we'll be randomly selecting 18 posts from this thread and upgrading that member to "Contributing Member" status for one year. Stay tuned, and thanks again for being a member. Together, I think we can make LQ even better.


goldennuggets 06-26-2018 06:59 AM

Amazing!!! 18 years. I can't believe it. Keep up the great work!

Pros: It seems that even with obscure things, there's normally someone who will provide an answer or at least point you in the right direction.

Cons: Still a bit of arrogance in the posts at times. Pride is a very ugly trait.
It would be good to also teach more. Don't just say "do this" and end the post. Explain how and why something is done. This way we can keep growing. If the person you're helping doesn't really care, that's okay, someone else coming up later might find it very useful.

j-ray 06-26-2018 07:34 AM

We have seen a lot of other internet platforms come and go since June 2000. Cool job, jeremy! Congratulations!

jsbjsb001 06-26-2018 08:17 AM

Well, I guess the first thing to say is.... Happy B-day LQ!!!

I think to a large extent the answer to your questions in post #1 Jeremy, lies in the word "community" ...

So, if this site's about providing a "community" of Linux users to help one another as well as those who are new to Linux, then we should ask what it means to provide a "community" that's able to not just help, but also support and educate. As I think part of trying to help also involves educating not just those new but also educating the existing "community". So I think given that: it's not just about having the technical no-how to be able to answer technical questions, it's also being able to engage constructively with those we are trying to help. A part of that also involves both the members trying to help, but also, just as importantly, those we are trying to help. In other words: it MUST be a two-way street, it can't be a one-way street - that doesn't work.

We should also remember in the end, I don't know anyone on the face of the Earth that could honestly say they are perfect, I know I can't say that myself, about myself. I also know that I'll never be able to answer all of the questions we see here, and therefore others are critical to be able to answer what I or others can't.

I think people should also remember that a "community" is a group of people, not just one or two people. The point: it takes everyone here to make the place what it is or could be.

I also have to say that personally, I find at least 9 times out of 10 that even when members are disagreeing about something, it more often than not remains quite respectful, and normally very respectful. So I don't understand comments like "Still a bit of arrogance in the posts at times. Pride is a very ugly trait.". As I personally DO like to take pride in what I do, as if I don't take any pride in what I do, it does beg the question in my mind: why am I doing it if I take no pride in it? I don't believe that's the same thing as "arrogance", I'm sorry and WITH all respect.

So I think the better question here would be: how do we educate both ourselves as well as those we are trying to help, to able to help both parties better?

Honest Abe 06-26-2018 10:24 AM

Jeremy must be a very proud father
Happy Birthday LQ !! :party:

It feels great to be a part of this wonderful community, where you learn something new everyday. :cool:

Turbocapitalist 06-26-2018 10:23 PM

The community is the strong point and the moderators steer exceptionally well yet maintain a light touch, they are not interminable beggars like some at other sites.

As for doing better, I worry about the planned 2FA and hope that it does not tie 2FA users into mandatory javascript usage. That would neutralize (at best) the benefits of 2FA. From my own very small experiments with writing 2FA support, it looks like there are many server-side methods available.

However, overall everything is good and 18 years is not just many generations of technologies but starting to get into the realm of multiple human generations. So, congratulations for getting the ball rolling 18 years ago and sticking with it!

frankbell 06-26-2018 10:26 PM

The friendliest Linux place on the inner webs!

nhept 06-27-2018 10:21 AM

thank you
Found this site extremely useful as someone working in the security monitoring space and not being a Linux trained person can find answers to most questions in the forum-thank you

pandanuma 06-27-2018 11:10 PM

jeremy, i cannot think of where you are failing so you must be doing everything right

except...maybe...on site privacy and security information.
I am too lazy to search this site right now but might I suggest a link under the main menu heading. Where all the security precautions employed by your site are available for viewing. how to safely surf your site and protect the security of other users. How hard would it be to employ encryption techniques on this site and encourage their use for all internet users. I am sure if i got off my virtual rump i could confirm this on your site already.
httpS:// everywhere...confirmed.

I believe in credit where credit is due. if i come up with a brilliant idea, like this one, and post it to this site, how easy would it be to establish that post as a permanent online record under copyleft conditions? Could all member content on your site be used to establish copyleft protection?

With copyleft in mind, i wonder if LQ could implement the following idea:
Being too lazy and paranoid to donate online I have long thought if only I could donate to a public account run by LQ. A portion of that donation would be available for me to use to as i wish to support other good causes at the push of button. A community chest so to speak, and LQ would allocate other portions to X-prizes suggested by LQ members. [blockchain wallet??]

and one more i hesitate to suggest. after logging in i tried to access the advertisers supporting this site? and luckily could not find any. After logging in, I would be willing to click on a link to a page on this site to view static? advertising to generate revenue for LQ.
i.e. Completely anonymous and untraceable to a single member.

if any of this is already available...remember... i am lazy today.
great site and most welcoming

JZL240I-U 06-28-2018 01:33 AM

I'd like to use this event, to say thank you. To all of you. I learned lots and lots here over the years. Jeremy and the mods made it possible but many, many members just shared knowledge -- and I love to learn. So, again, thank you, everybody.

Oh, yes, and happy birthday of course, keep this site as it is, Jeremy, and I for one will be happy.

PECONET009 06-28-2018 05:13 AM

Still standing through out those tough years.
It is nice to know that LQ is still going strong and everyone that can help is, has or had done so and in doing so had helped to keep this forum going. CHEERS to another maybe twenty years!

milewap 06-28-2018 05:37 AM

Happy Birthday LQ !!

Gamesmedic 06-28-2018 06:13 AM


Seems like us engineers are always accidentally figuring out ways to screw up our systems beyond what ordinary people do. As a consequence none of my questions ever seem to get answered, because quite frankly they are so unique, no one has ever tackled them before. But hey, you're board is 18 now. You must be doing something right. keep up the good work.

JZL240I-U 06-28-2018 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by Gamesmedic (Post 5872900)
us engineers are always accidentally figuring out ways to screw up our systems beyond what ordinary people do...

Yeah, you must be the one real and true expert after a whole of 6 posts on the whopping number of 2 (two) threads before coming here.

Signed on october 10th 2017 to first "highjack" a twelve year old zombi-thread and never answering to the solution offered there.

In the other thread (highjacked again) you found one solution yourself, introduced a further problem and solved that also.

If you need LQ just for self profiling why do you complain?

freecode 06-28-2018 06:54 AM

Thanks Jeremy
Thanks for an amazing 18 years of community, information and a welcoming spirit. What brought me here has kept me here, the simple fact that there wasn't the arrogance of mistreatment, that questions can be asked and answered with civility and that people do wish to help each other. That is after all, what I want to do as often as possible, help others in need achieve what they want and need. This is indeed a welcoming community with a sense of curiosity, and that is why I have come here for so long.

Thanks Jeremy, and here is to the next 18 years of success!


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