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Old 04-04-2018, 07:34 AM   #1
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Apple to Dump Intel and Use Chips of Their Own Design


Apple will dump Intel and use its own chips in Macs, sources say

Apple might dump Intel chips

In reading some random comments invoked by this news, I noticed an absence of comments related to the potential impact on the Linux community.

The comments speculated that Apple may be taking this action to reinvigorated it's closed environment by "locking-out" Microsoft Windows (unverified).

What is the potential impact on those using Linux on an Apple platform?
 
Old 04-04-2018, 10:52 AM   #2
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Unless someone writes code to run on their new chip, Linux won't work on their hardware, therefore locking in users again!
 
Old 04-04-2018, 06:39 PM   #3
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Unless someone writes code to run on their new chip, Linux won't work on their hardware, therefore locking in users again!
Depends on whether Apple include an "L Chip" to make sure Linux won't run. If not, there shouldn't be a problem - I think there were several distros for the PowerPC Macs?
 
Old 04-04-2018, 09:27 PM   #4
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I'm sure this won't get much love from the Linux community, but I for one applaud Apple's move to using their own chips, especially after the whole Meltdown/Spectre situation.

Full disclosure: I make a living using Apple hardware and OS, as I work in the commercial printing industry. I have an iMac at home, on which I run zero Linux OSes. I also have a ThinkPad T61 laptop and a Dell Optiplex 980 desktop, which both run Gentoo. I don't really get people who buy Apple hardware to run Linux on it, but to each their own.
 
Old 04-05-2018, 05:33 PM   #5
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AIM alliance tried to make some progress in the powerpc based chip sets that Apple was part of.

Guess they could be going back to powerpc design or just get ARM to design a chip for them.
 
Old 04-16-2018, 08:06 PM   #6
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Smart business decision for Apple, and I agree with JW, that most Linux users are probably not running Linux on Apple hardware.

PS: This is another reason why I would not use Apple, I am not in favor of vendor lockin.

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Old 04-16-2018, 08:33 PM   #7
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Smart business decision for Apple, and I agree with JW, that most Linux users are probably not running Linux on Apple hardware.

PS: This is another reason why I would not use Apple, I am not in favor of vendor lockin.
I will believe these rumors only when I see them. As far as I know, Apple is not a semiconductor manufacturer.
 
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I will believe these rumors only when I see them. As far as I know, Apple is not a semiconductor manufacturer.
And Amazon wasn't in the high end grocery business before either, now look at them with Whole Foods. Greed will cause people and companies to do all sorts of things. You are correct, time will tell.
 
Old 04-23-2018, 05:50 AM   #9
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Apple could do it if they wanted to. In the 90s they were mostly doing desktops, now look at them - from mp3 players to dominating the smartphone and tablet markets and beyond.

I have always been staunchly anti-Apple, but this is a sound business move.

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Old 04-28-2018, 03:46 PM   #10
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Smart business decision for Apple, and I agree with JW, that most Linux users are probably not running Linux on Apple hardware.

PS: This is another reason why I would not use Apple, I am not in favor of vendor lockin.
I have never and would never use an Apple computer, tablet or iphone simply because I adamantly hate vendor lock in. And it's also one of the reasons I love Linux because Linux represents the opposite of Apple.

Is the move smart? I guess from Apple's perspective, but it's the customer who always pays.

By the way, why is it that Microsoft was subject to so many monopoly lawsuits in the US and Europe because of Windows, but Apple appears to get away scott free.

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Old 04-28-2018, 04:08 PM   #11
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I have never and would never use an Apple computer, tablet or iphone simply because I adamantly hate vendor lock in. And it's also one of the reasons I love Linux because Linux represents the opposite of Apple.

Is the move smart? I guess from Apple's perspective, but it's the customer who always pays.

By the way, why is it that Microsoft was subject to so many monopoly lawsuits in the US and Europe because of Windows, but Apple appears to get away scott free.
As I said smart for Apple. Antitrust/monopoly would be much harder to prove with Apple since they "make" their own gear. Microsoft was guilty of this since they practically force(d) PC manufactures to pre-install Windows. If Microsoft manufactured their own computers like Apple then its not a monopoly its user choice/buyer beware.
 
Old 05-11-2018, 10:04 AM   #12
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Microsoft did not manufacture their own hardware, but they did very heavily subsidise the manufacturers.
I think anyone who backs industry very much wants to get their money back through support.
The motor industry in particular pretty much insist that people use their expensive own brand parts and garages or lose support.
 
Old 09-06-2018, 06:59 PM   #13
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I severely doubt this news. It's %100 fake news
 
Old 09-06-2018, 07:02 PM   #14
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* apple has a problem with iPhone screens: korea Samsung is extorting them and prices are hacked up to $1,000 for iPhone 8. Apple wants to build it's own SCREEN factory.

* apple has it's own chips that have been prooduced domestically (here in us) and globally (ie, Taiwan), but for any recent imac and mac mini: it's always been Intel quality through and through

* apple has a FIRM relationship with intel: today's iMac are %100 intel: the mother board is %100 intel (not Asian made, not Asian assembled), the CPU are intel: on every device except iPhone. on the iPhone apple was "not happy with progress" and expressed if the Asian makers could not keep up with production quota (the number needed infact), that they may have to move production elsewhere (perhaps usa, perhaps not - it was not stated as an extortion issue)

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Old 09-06-2018, 07:12 PM   #15
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meanwhile UK (ucko!) is pushing ARM since they own the "patents" and have intel printing some of them - and may be approaching apple to use ARM not intel. some android uses ARM?

UK, of course, and USA are both equally go back to the first real digital computers. Wolfram (a usa software maker) infact studied in UK!
 
  


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