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Old 09-05-2022, 08:13 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by *spaceman* View Post
It just disappoints me that this approach to Linux is held in such esteem. Ubuntu, or Windows for Linux I've dubbed it, disempowers users. In an environment where everything (well more than most people need) is installed, integrated and configured an attitude of "It just works or I won't use it..." grows (as with Windows users).
At heart I tend to agree with you. On the other hand... at least it's not Windows. I've had friends tired of "fixing" their MS systems, suggesting 90% of your computer anymore is - [some brand] web browser. They hardly knew/understood Windows, so they don't need to really understand Linux, more specifically which distribution - as Linux is not an OS.

So some have tried and haven't had bloat problems overtime draining their system. There's also minimum concern about the malware and virus fears.

I more-or-less started with Ubuntu then Mint until the friendliness get in my way. It's not easy to jump straight into clean Debian without some clue.

So I do believe these hand-holding distributions have their place, but I do feel they tend to step near to "proprietary-ize" their systems.
 
Old 09-12-2022, 06:12 AM   #17
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It shouldn't bother me, but it does. Ubuntu - Desktop Distribution of the Year.

It just disappoints me that this approach to Linux is held in such esteem. Ubuntu, or Windows for Linux I've dubbed it, disempowers users. In an environment where everything (well more than most people need) is installed, integrated and configured an attitude of "It just works or I won't use it..." grows (as with Windows users).

I'm not suggest everyone use a distro that demands you build everything from source, or use a rolling distro that is always bleeding edge and some things just won't work some of the time. However, it would be refreshing to see Ubuntu become the useful stepping stone distro, out of Windows, that people us to progress to lighter, more individually tailored distros (no, not Mint XD).

Great to see antiX Linux picking up a good slice of the vote.
What's so empowering about doing the most boring uncreative manual labor that is configuring linux desktop to not suck? I have better stuff to do, for reals.
 
  


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