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jeremy 02-09-2010 12:10 PM

2009 LinuxQuestions.org Members Choice Award Winners
 
The polls are closed and the results are in. We had a record number of votes cast for the ninth straight year. Congratulations should go to each and every nominee. We once again had some extremely close races and a couple multi-year winners were unseated. The official results:

Desktop Distribution of the Year - Ubuntu (30.13%)
Server Distribution of the Year - Debian (24.24%)
Security/Forensic/Rescue Distribution of the Year - BackTrack (43.48%)
Database of the Year - MySQL (60.81%)
Office Suite of the Year - OpenOffice.org (90.76%)
Browser of the Year - Firefox (65.21%)
Desktop Environment of the Year - Gnome (41.96%)
Window Manager of the Year - Compiz (23.10%)
Messaging App of the Year - Pidgin (48.74%)
Mail Client of the Year - Thunderbird (53.48%)
Virtualization Product of the Year - VirtualBox (67.43%)
Audio Media Player Application of the Year - Amarok (38.81%)
Audio Authoring Application of the Year - Audacity (77.26%)
Video Media Player Application of the Year - VLC (46.05%)
Video Authoring Application of the Year - FFmpeg (21.94%)
Multimedia Utility of the Year - GStreamer (32.84%)
Graphics Application of the Year - GIMP (66.48%)
Network Security Application of the Year - Nmap Security Scanner (29.85%)
Host Security Application of the Year - SELinux (39.26%)
Network Monitoring Application of the Year - Nagios (51.11%)
IDE/Web Development Editor of the Year - Eclipse (23.28%)
Text Editor of the Year - vim (35.29%)
File Manager of the Year - Nautilus (24.92%)
Open Source Game of the Year - Battle for Wesnoth (15.45%)
Programming Language of the Year - Python (27.59%)
Backup Application of the Year - rsync (48.99%)
Open Source CMS/Blogging platform of the Year - WordPress (45.20%)

If you have any questions or suggestions on how we can improve the MCA's next year, do let me know. Visit http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ice-awards-91/ for the full poll results.

--jeremy

brianL 02-09-2010 12:27 PM

Poor Slackware! Always the bridesmaid, never the bride. :)
Suggest Ubuntu be disqualified from entering next year.

Completely Clueless 02-09-2010 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy (Post 3857965)
The polls are closed and the results are in.

[...]

--jeremy

Thanks, Jeremy. But it would be more interesting to see the also-rans as well; which came 2nd and 3rd as well, particularly in the most important categories. Any chance?

Completely Clueless 02-09-2010 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianL (Post 3857988)
Poor Slackware! Always the bridesmaid, never the bride. :)

It is probably down to Slacware's terrible dependency-handling, Brian. :->

sycamorex 02-09-2010 12:32 PM

Thanks Jeremy.
Just to let you know there must be a bug in the script that counts votes. I mean, vim over emacs - that can't be right, LOL

brianL 02-09-2010 12:33 PM

I am my Slackware's dependency-handler. :)

sycamorex 02-09-2010 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Completely Clueless (Post 3857990)
Thanks, Jeremy. But it would be more interesting to see the also-rans as well; which came 2nd and 3rd as well, particularly in the most important categories. Any chance?

You can click on the link that Jeremy provided and check particular categories.

Completely Clueless 02-09-2010 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycamorex (Post 3858002)
You can click on the link that Jeremy provided and check particular categories.

Yup, just spotted it, thanks.

sycamorex 02-09-2010 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianL (Post 3857999)
I am my Slackware's dependency-handler. :)

Well said!!!

jeremy 02-09-2010 12:35 PM

Completely Clueless, you can already see the entire results, including exact percentages, for each nominee:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ice-awards-91/

--jeremy

Junkieman 02-09-2010 03:15 PM

Some good and unexpected results, wow! I'm going to try out some of those choices voted on, but never tried myself :)

MBybee 02-09-2010 03:43 PM

C/C++?
 
Interesting that C/C++ combined would have been about the same as Python. I wonder how many people who voted for either actually have a preference.

I know I'm sorta indifferent - I prefer the libs in C++, but I'd still rather use C than Python ;)

kbp 02-09-2010 11:17 PM

Regarding Server platform: I don't know that it's that accurate separating CentOS and RHEL.. the differences are so minuscule.

.. not trying to reopen the poll, just commenting :)

cheers

Electro 02-10-2010 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy (Post 3857965)
If you have any questions or suggestions on how we can improve the MCA's next year, do let me know.

Compiz is not a window manager. It is an enhancement or eye candy for both Window and Desktop managers.

I suggest you place a reminder to users before voting to not vote based on favorite, but vote based on what did better than previous year. The reason why I am saying this is because it seems people voted based on their favorite.

I disagree with the results because most do not deserve an award. OpenOffice did nothing to improve, but made my life a living hell to use it. Do not forget to include Softmaker Office for next year.

I do not think you should include Programming Language, Host Security Application, and some others because each program in these categories are used differently, so they can not compare. It is like using a strainer to be used as a cup trying to hold a liquid.

Junkieman 02-10-2010 09:42 AM

For those interested, I posted a top 5 summary for each category. If anything seems out of place, or I missed something, leave a comment on the post :)

jeremy 02-10-2010 10:44 AM

Junkieman, thanks, much appreciated and very nice.

kbp, the difference is not really minuscule; one is supported by RHT and one is not.

Electro, Compiz is a full compositing window manager to my understanding (Compiz Extras and Compiz Fusion are simply enhancements). I explained the guidelines for voting in one of the introductory posts and also go into detail every year regarding the fact that some nominees in certain categories are not directly comparable.

--jeremy

Bratmon 02-10-2010 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electro (Post 3858637)
Compiz is not a window manager. It is an enhancement or eye candy for both Window and Desktop managers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Compiz is one of the first compositing window managers for the X Window System that uses 3D graphics hardware to create fast compositing desktop effects for window management.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiz

MBybee 02-10-2010 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electro (Post 3858637)
Compiz is not a window manager. It is an enhancement or eye candy for both Window and Desktop managers.

I suggest you place a reminder to users before voting to not vote based on favorite, but vote based on what did better than previous year. The reason why I am saying this is because it seems people voted based on their favorite.

I disagree with the results because most do not deserve an award. OpenOffice did nothing to improve, but made my life a living hell to use it. Do not forget to include Softmaker Office for next year.

I do not think you should include Programming Language, Host Security Application, and some others because each program in these categories are used differently, so they can not compare. It is like using a strainer to be used as a cup trying to hold a liquid.

I disagree - I know I voted on most improved/changed. I voted VirtualBox, for example, even though my favorite is VMware. VirtualBox totally blew me away this year and is on the way to being an overall favorite, despite not having 1/3rd the functionality of VMware.

Programming languages are not that different - most problems can be approached by at least 6 or 7 languages, so I must disagree with you there. That's not saying that Ruby can do microcode, but more that CGI/Web stuff can be done by easily a dozen languages (including C).

CoderMan 02-10-2010 05:40 PM

Proposing two additional categories for next year:

"Most Adaptable Distribution of the Year"

"Most Geeky Distribution of the Year"

Electro 02-10-2010 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bratmon (Post 3859137)

Do not believe everything you read on wikipedia, so it is a worst resource. Compiz is an enhancement or eye candy -- period.


Quote:

Originally Posted by MBybee (Post 3859167)
I disagree - I know I voted on most improved/changed. I voted VirtualBox, for example, even though my favorite is VMware. VirtualBox totally blew me away this year and is on the way to being an overall favorite, despite not having 1/3rd the functionality of VMware.

Programming languages are not that different - most problems can be approached by at least 6 or 7 languages, so I must disagree with you there. That's not saying that Ruby can do microcode, but more that CGI/Web stuff can be done by easily a dozen languages (including C).

Virtualbox did not impress me last year. It is unreliable and unstable.

Using any programming language is a matter of preference. None of them are better than the other. Python got a award based on it being the most favorite, so that category should not be in there at all. If you disagree then you do not know about programming languages.

MBybee 02-10-2010 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electro (Post 3859853)
Do not believe everything you read on wikipedia, so it is a worst resource. Compiz is an enhancement or eye candy -- period.

Virtualbox did not impress me last year. It is unreliable and unstable.

Ah. I see from your posting history that you were the guy unable to figure out how to set up a network with VirtualBox. I now understand your dislike of it :)

I haven't had that problem, in fact I've used it with Windows, Debian, and PC-BSD as host OSs and a range of guests going from Windows to Ubuntu and PC-BSD without ever having a networking issue. Perhaps I'm lucky, but I never had to do a single tweak aside from memory allocations.
Still, opinions are opinions, and I respect yours.

As for Compiz being a window manager, even your own distro disagrees with you:
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Compiz-Fusion
As do several others:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Compiz
http://www.compiz.org/
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/..._compiz_fusion
http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz_Fusion

Maybe you don't believe Wikipedia, but I'm afraid you're just incorrect here.

Electro 02-10-2010 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBybee (Post 3859875)
Ah. I see from your posting history that you were the guy unable to figure out how to set up a network with VirtualBox. I now understand your dislike of it :)

I haven't had that problem, in fact I've used it with Windows, Debian, and PC-BSD as host OSs and a range of guests going from Windows to Ubuntu and PC-BSD without ever having a networking issue. Perhaps I'm lucky, but I never had to do a single tweak aside from memory allocations.
Still, opinions are opinions, and I respect yours.

As for Compiz being a window manager, even your own distro disagrees with you:
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Compiz-Fusion
As do several others:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Compiz
http://www.compiz.org/
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/..._compiz_fusion
http://en.opensuse.org/Compiz_Fusion

Maybe you don't believe Wikipedia, but I'm afraid you're just incorrect here.

It is not about being incorrect about Compiz. It is about disagreeing with people that want one thing be in a category that should not in instead it is just eye candy. Compiz is eye candy crap that enhances any window manager or desktop manager, but Compiz is not a window manager because it uses someone else to make it its own. Basically Compiz is compositing manager.

CoderMan 02-11-2010 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electro (Post 3859853)
Using any programming language is a matter of preference. None of them are better than the other. Python got a award based on it being the most favorite, so that category should not be in there at all. If you disagree then you do not know about programming languages.

That's not quite an accurate statement. Some languages are better suited for certain types of programming than others, and some languages do have features that make the programming process more productive or defects that get in the way.

Of course, I'm sure you know that and we all know that. Maybe it would be better to subdivide the competition. For example:

Which language is best for...
- Web Design
- Application Programming
- Embedded Development
- Scientific Applications
- et cetera

veatnik 02-12-2010 10:55 PM

As an everyday editor of course it is vim over emacs, because...
 
emacs was entered in the kitchen sink category!

Organizers of the competition were overheard explaining that, "The kitchen sink category was not included in the vote this year as only one application/OS falls into the category so voting on it would lead to a bit of an anticlimax" ;-)

(Note that I am a died in the wool emacs user. I just could not resist a bit of teasing. Also note that I can tolerate vi or vim ("or even ed", he says, dating himself) as a nice standard out of the box editor in a standard Linux/Unix installation.) What I hate is having a different "default" text editor in every newfangled distro.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycamorex (Post 3857997)
Thanks Jeremy.
Just to let you know there must be a bug in the script that counts votes. I mean, vim over emacs - that can't be right, LOL


usdanskys 02-14-2010 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electro (Post 3858637)
Compiz is not a window manager. It is an enhancement or eye candy for both Window and Desktop managers.

Then what's managing my windows?
It's not metacity, mutter, openbox, or twm, which are the only other window managers installed on my system. Granted, I'm using emerald to decorate the windows, but I do believe compiz is doing the management.

mkpelletier 02-15-2010 01:51 AM

Category for software in testing?
 
Perhaps we might add a category for most promising new technology, i.e. projects still in testing. I think this would be a tantalizing group and would introduce users to projects on which they could provide feedback to the developers.

For example, we might include in this category things like:

Zeitgeist
Gnome-Shell
Akonadi (I know this is out, but it is still quite buggy)
KBFX
ETC.

We might also include a category for best widget program:
  • Screenlets
  • Desklets
  • Plasmoids
  • SuperKaramba
  • Google Gadgets
  • ETC

Your thoughts?

~Cheers!

blackhole54 02-15-2010 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkieman (Post 3859046)
For those interested, I posted a top 5 summary for each category. If anything seems out of place, or I missed something, leave a comment on the post :)

Wow! That's fantastic! Thanks a lot.

And thanks for using the term "elite users" instead of (ahem, turns head to the side in disugust) "power users". That last phrase, in my not so humble opinion, should be forever banished from the face of the earth!

oneforall 02-15-2010 06:58 AM

You calling us terrible?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Completely Clueless (Post 3857992)
It is probably down to Slacware's terrible dependency-handling, Brian. :->


pff I do a great job get with it man:)
I rarely even use the pkgtools. I just use what it uses :)

Luckyjfl 02-15-2010 10:22 AM

Well Guys, as a Noob, I applaud the contents of the result. For those people like myself, it gives us a great idea of some of the various programs to use. This ofcourse, does not take anything away from the tremndous help we get from all you Guys out there. We really appreciate it. Thats all.
All the best.

Lucky

aaltto 02-15-2010 01:09 PM

My first post so it's likely to be fraught with error. Your comment that Open Office made your life 'a living hell' was a real stopper. Could you detail that statement a bit for us? Thank you.

emc986 02-15-2010 02:47 PM

Congrats to Ubuntu for being whitebread enough to pull in some new users. Personally, I'm not a fan.

allanf 02-15-2010 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycamorex (Post 3857997)
Thanks Jeremy.
Just to let you know there must be a bug in the script that counts votes. I mean, vim over emacs - that can't be right, LOL

Well it might have to do with the fact that "vi" is part of the "UNIX standard" and "emacs" is "NOT". Or Maybe too many people do not have enough memory for an application that:
1) edits your file(s)
2) reads your email
3) browses the web
4) pop-up twitter messages
....
999999) is a complete HURD OS and does not need a single one of the other GNU utilities (if we can just get GCC into emacs proper.

drbuzbee 02-15-2010 09:43 PM

Top 5 Summary
 
Thanks so much for the posted Top 5 Summary.

MBybee 02-16-2010 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanf (Post 3864985)
Well it might have to do with the fact that "vi" is part of the "UNIX standard" and "emacs" is "NOT". Or Maybe too many people do not have enough memory for an application that:
1) edits your file(s)
2) reads your email
3) browses the web
4) pop-up twitter messages
....
999999) is a complete HURD OS and does not need a single one of the other GNU utilities (if we can just get GCC into emacs proper.

Actually, it's especially bad when you realize that Vi and Vim were actually broken out. Put together they totally trounced every other editor.

xpert13 02-17-2010 08:25 PM

i love UBUNTO!

Lsatenstein 02-27-2010 07:15 AM

Need numbers beside results
 
If three people vote on a category, and two are for one product,
that product gets 66.6%. I am guessing that some counts are in the very high numbers, and others in the very low.

It would also be interesting to indicate 2nd place. (Up and coming software may not be in everyones experience yet).

Similary, for software being displaced is going the otherway.


Leslie

jeremy 02-27-2010 12:23 PM

Lsatenstein, detailed information (including exact vote counts) are available for each category.

--jeremy

blackhole54 03-01-2010 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lsatenstein (Post 3878790)
It would also be interesting to indicate 2nd place. (Up and coming software may not be in everyones experience yet).

LQ member Junkieman was kind enough to post what you ask for and more. It is very nicely done and I encourage you to take a look. You can see Junkieman's announcement about it (earlier in this thread), here:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...46#post3859046

Junkieman 03-02-2010 04:26 PM

I have connectivity again! Good stuff. Editing those numbers made the eyes a bit wonky, but results and numbers are always a pleasing sight to geeks, eh ;)

FireRaven 03-03-2010 12:27 AM

I'm glad VirtualBox won over VMware!
I use VirtualBox everyday at work :)

ta0kira 03-14-2010 10:30 PM

I'm disappointed that KDE 3 and 4 are grouped together. I'm not a fan of KDE 4; KDE lost a lot (stability, versatility, usability) in an apparent effort to keep up with Windows and OS-X. In my opinion, KDE 4 and Gnome are equally undesirable compared to KDE 3.
Kevin Barry

hajenius 03-23-2010 01:36 PM

Little bit sad state of affairs when the GIMP is still the best Graphics Application of the Year... (Yeah, i know i voted for it too, but wouldn't it be nice to have something more sophisticated?)

LauMars 04-13-2010 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ta0kira (Post 3898409)
I'm disappointed that KDE 3 and 4 are grouped together. I'm not a fan of KDE 4; KDE lost a lot (stability, versatility, usability) in an apparent effort to keep up with Windows and OS-X. In my opinion, KDE 4 and Gnome are equally undesirable compared to KDE 3.
Kevin Barry

I'm guessing you've not used KDE4 in a while as everything you've posted about KDE4 is completely the opposite of reality.

emc986 04-14-2010 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpert13 (Post 3867536)
i love UBUNTO!

I'm glad you do. It really was meant to be a friendly jab (not that I'm going to ever use ubuntu, mind you).

Bratmon 04-14-2010 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpert13 (Post 3867536)
i love UBUNTO!

Never heard of that distro. Is it like Ubuntu?

mattvdh 06-11-2010 03:24 PM

Mandrivo is the best!


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