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Old 05-27-2004, 08:24 AM   #1
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YDL Newbie ? - Install OK but won't boot!


Hi all
I hope someone can help!

This is my first attempt at Linux (YDL) on a PPC 7300. I have a seperate 9G SCSI HDD for YDL. Followed all the setup procedure (7 times now) and finally was able to complete the installation. So I click exit to reboot and I get a message about not being able to find the filesystem (?) on the specified drive. I repeated the whole proceedure and got the same result.

I can't find any help anywhere else and don't want to folk out $140 for a boxed set just to see if it works.

Any clues out there?

Thanks in advance.
 
Old 05-27-2004, 08:38 AM   #2
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I'm going to assume you accidentally posted this twice in the same bored. If you would be so kind as to delete one please. If you find your post slipping down the board and you still need help just type 'bump' and it will be brought back up to the top. Thank you.
 
Old 05-27-2004, 08:50 AM   #3
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could you please give a bit more description about how your system is set up. from what you said:
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I have a seperate 9G SCSI HDD for YDL
i assume that this is a dual boot system. is this correct? and if so, is linux shown as an option in grub/lilo/whatever boot loader you are using? during the install what partitions did you set up for linux? did you choose to format these partitions, and if so, what filesystem type did you choose ext2/ext3, etc. for the most part, the more information you can give in your post, the better other readers can help you.
 
Old 05-27-2004, 09:03 AM   #4
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Thanks lyceum
It's set up with Mac OS 9.1 on one HDD on the internal scsi bus and Linux on the second HDD via an ATTO scsi pci card. All formatting & file system set up was performed by the installer and confirmed OK. There is a dual boot dialogue (BootX app control panel) at start-up, to select booting to Mac or YDL, and all settings are as recommended.

From the data during attempted startups, all the hardware checks out OK.

Thanks
Bernard

(Ahh yes Nis.. I did accidently post this twice. I'll try and work out how to delete it. Thanks for your helpful suggestion)
 
Old 05-27-2004, 09:18 AM   #5
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what partitions did you create on the hard drive during installation? are you making a / partition? you are usually given the option of what partitions you want to create for example: /, /home, /boot

if you do not create a root partition (the one denoted by /) linux will not work.

please let me know and we'll keep working on this. i'm at work, so be patient with my replies, but i'm sure others can help out if i'm away from the desk.
 
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Old 05-27-2004, 09:34 AM   #7
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Thanks!

I formatted the drive with Mac OS DriveSetup and created one small (35Mb) partition as OS Standard and the second (8Gb) as unallocated. The unallocated partition is where YDL installer creates it's 3 partitions (I think they were 10Mb, 256Mb Swap and balance for system or root?)

Sorry for the lack of clarity but it all happens very quickly and moves on to the next section with using the auto formatting proceedure.

One final clue, when I booted back to the Mac OS there was a second identical 35Mb drive partition mounted on the desktop. I was expecting only one???
 
Old 05-27-2004, 11:35 AM   #8
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should've asked this earlier, but what kinda mac are you using? you might find this page interesting as it specifies which bootloader to use with particular "old world" and "new world" macs:

penguinppc.org

that is if you didn't check this before hand.

also, here is a YDL FAQ that has some installation advice, though the site doesn't seem to be very well maintained (some broken links):


YDL FAQ

it would appear from the error message that BootX isn't pointing to the correct partition when looking for the root partition, i am not familiar at all with BootX, though i did see a screenshot of it's gui and saw that there was a spot to enter the root partition. check to make sure that this is correct.

hope this helps.
 
Old 05-28-2004, 09:53 AM   #9
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Thanks again for your help lyceum
I'm trying to run this on an "old world" PPC 7300.
The BootX control panel is where I enter the root dev but on each attempt
it always says :append (root= ) , It can't seem to read the filesystem on the correct
partition. Last night I accidently wiped my Mac OS and have since reinstalled it (very easy) and reinstalled YDL another 4 times but with no more success. This is getting very much like Windoze and DOS - alot of promises but technically deficient. The only reason I can think why this is so blatently difficult compared to the Terrasoft claims is that they want to sell support and therefore leave much of the install detail out.

I'm starting to think it might be easier and CHEAPER to go to Mac OSX.
 
Old 05-28-2004, 02:11 PM   #10
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it sounds like the bootloader is not finding your / partition. there are a few thing s I would suggest. you need to figure out exactly where each partition is, and how it is named.

go here http://www.knoppix.org/ to get a copy of knoppix, which is a live-cd distro. burn it to cd, then put it in and boot up your computer. this will allow you to mount any partitions you have and check out what is going on. open a shell, and type

su root
(password)
mount

[copy this output and post it please]



then type

cat /etc/fstab

[copy this output and post it please]


and then, if you know of any configuraton files for bootX, post those up too, uhfortunately i don't know anything about it. anyway, the output from those commands above should help us figure out exactly where your / parition is located. once we know that, we can check it for errors, make sure that you're passing the right partition to the bootloader, etc. if none of that is the problem, then the install disk might be corrupt, i don't know.
 
Old 05-28-2004, 09:43 PM   #11
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Hi MCD
I know where the partitions are and what they're named but the program still won't work/boot up no matter what I try.

As for the link, I'm afraid with my ISP a download might take a few weeks!

Thanks anyhow.
 
Old 05-29-2004, 12:24 PM   #12
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Anyone else got any clues?

Someone must have been through this nightmare!
 
Old 06-07-2004, 09:55 PM   #13
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I'm assuming that you are using at least version 3.0, probably 3.0.1. If you didn't already know, you can verify the discs by booting from them then typing "install mediacheck" at the boot prompt. You might have to find a New World mac to do this from, but if you can use one then you should be able to just put the disc in the comp and restart holding down "c." I had an issue with the installer at the keyboard layouts and when it tried to find the cd (and I didn't have a choice between GUI or CLI for install) when I tried to install it on a StarMax 3000. After being confused the whole day I tried booting from the discs on my iMac 233 mHz. I ran the verification on the discs and only the third disc passed.
 
  


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