thanks again for the help,
Ok I ran mozilla in a comand prompt and the hardfrive churned a bit then the the terminal gave me a new comand prompt with no output ar anything. I tried to find the ./xsession-errors but again to no avail (not really sure what I am looking for there)
But on a positive note I do have sound and I like the KDE a bit better so thanks for pointing me towards that,
cheers,
Draylath
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