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Old 09-19-2009, 11:19 AM   #31
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ok you are confused

lets keep it simple?

click on my internode link and scroll down to that kernel name.

assuming you are right handed...right hand click and choose

"save link as" or words to that effect.

if that does not allow you to download and save the file....then left click the filename and see if your web browser gives you options to save the file?

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I had 2 parts to my post.
part 1 was for upgrading/updating which is the easiest option I prefer you do

part 2 was for vanilla.

ZZZ) Do not concern yourself with the next bit

I think you are using a vanilla kernel. Can you confirm pls?

Your answer was
It should be . It is downloaded from suse site. It is 2.6.25.1.1 default.


ok....wrong...lol

any kernel you download from any distro...well most distros....will not be a vanilla kernel.

your opensuse 2.6.25.1.1 is compiled by them as a 586 architecture and is no longer vanilla.

vanilla means untainted...pure and comes from kernel.org

However, opensuse has "kernel sources"
this is kind of vanilla and means the source kernel from which they derived the config file and kernel to give them
(in your case) your 586 style kernel.


so there is nothing wrong in you learning to compile a vanilla kernel to tune it to your hardware...BUT that is not the same as upgrading your distro's kernel

ok?

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Old 09-19-2009, 12:01 PM   #32
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click on my internode link and scroll down to that kernel name.
assuming you are right handed...right hand click and choose
"save link as" or words to that effect.
if that does not allow you to download and save the file....then left click the filename and see if your web browser gives you options to save the file?
I have downloaded the file.
I have downloaded many rpm files, so that is not the problem. I have downloaded gcc, make, etc. I am unable to update the kernel.
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I think you are using a vanilla kernel. Can you confirm pls?
Your answer was. It should be . It is downloaded from suse site. It is 2.6.25.1.1 default.
ok....wrong...lol.any kernel you download from any distro...well most distros....will not be a vanilla kernel.your opensuse 2.6.25.1.1 is compiled by them as a 586 architecture and is no longer vanilla.vanilla means untainted...pure and comes from kernel.org
Thanks. I have no idea. Lol. So 2.6.31 I downloaded from kernel.org is vanilla.
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so there is nothing wrong in you learning to compile a vanilla kernel to tune it to your hardware...BUT that is not the same as upgrading your distro's kernel
The replies I got was for compiling. I have downloaded so many gcc, make, cmake files and could not get to update the kernel so far.
Thank you for your patience.
bamtoy.

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Old 09-20-2009, 03:10 PM   #33
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Update kernel

Hi
I have downlaoded kernel default 2.6.25.20.rpm file to suse. How do I update my kernel?

Regards,
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:23 PM   #34
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hi

try clicking on it in your filemanager....and hopefully that calls up the rpm manager to install it.

but I do not use Opensuse as already mentioned so you may need to get help in the other post as I am not an expert in Opensuse.

2) this has taken you some time.....and you may be getting impatient?

while waiting for a better answer and or doing a search of your opensuse dox....consider downloading and running a live cd or an install cd/dvd....that has a more up-to-date kernel that might already have the ath5k qualities you desire?

I am NOT trying to force you away from Opensuse. But if another distro works for you out of the box ....for ath5k your pain may be less?

www.distrowatch.com shows distros and clicking the relevant pages shows their kernel numbers...under the word...linux

eg
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu

now I do not like ubuntu but they have independent forums from LQ and as you can see they have a 2.6.31 kernel and that may be a install product.

whereas puppy definately live...k 2.6.30
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=puppy
 
Old 09-22-2009, 04:14 AM   #35
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hi
try clicking on it in your filemanager....and hopefully that calls up the rpm manager to install it.
I have updated 2.6.25.20.0-5 and I logged into it already(grub menu).
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2) I am NOT trying to force you away from Opensuse. But if another distro works for you out of the box ....for ath5k your pain may be less?
I have already been on Ubuntu 9.04. The only thing about it was it always connected with wires. Wireless was the same nightmare. I got as far as wicd.

Update: In suse ,I have the done the following again and can 'edit' the network configuration for wireless.
[quote]modprobe -rv ath5k
echo "blacklist ath5k" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local
rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
udevadm trigger[/QUOTE
But this is as far as I can get.
After that, tried wicd.
I have downloaded wicd and can see my network with full strength.
But I get the error 'Cant find the ip address'
bamtoy

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Old 09-22-2009, 07:57 PM   #36
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ok I have failed to explain my method to you .....lets rephrase my request.

1) get the latest kernel....done...great
2) do not blacklist ath5k if using this kernel's module

unfortunately as I was not clear on the different methods...somehow you still believed you needed to blacklist.

so now use root powers to delete the entry of ath5k in your blacklist file

3) then re-attempt using what ever way Opensuse uses to configure a wireless network

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Now it is acceptable to leave that ath5k in your blacklist file
if and only if

a)you want to use a module from some other source also called ath5k...such as from madwifi

Or
b) use some other way to get wirelesss working without your distro's module ath5k loading.

is that clearer?
 
Old 09-23-2009, 04:46 AM   #37
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ok I have failed to explain my method to you .....lets rephrase my request.
1) get the latest kernel....done...great
2) do not blacklist ath5k if using this kernel's module
unfortunately as I was not clear on the different methods...somehow you still believed you needed to blacklist.
No it had nothing to do with what you said. You were clear.
It is just that I had tried so many things. The only thing that ever worked was to install madwifi for the kernel and then blacklisted ath5k. There are many posts that say that ath5k does not work with AR242x drivers. And most importantly, when I do it, I can get an EDIT on the wireless driver in Network settings(Yast --> Network --> Networksettings) and this allows me to configure the wireless card.
Nothing else , allows me to edit and configure the card.

Secondly, the other thing that shows networks is WIcd, but again it cannot get the IP address. So am looking for all posts for this error.
If this does not work , then I will try something else.
I will go back to removing the blacklist as you said if this also does not work.
Thank you for your patience.
BY THE WAY, Yesterday I could connect to the internet with my USB dongle.
 
Old 10-03-2009, 06:51 AM   #38
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Wireless connection [SOLVED]

Hi All,
I have finally got wireless connection. I am using wireless for a few days now and there are no problems.

I have tried a lot of things but Wicd seems to be the charm.

Here are the things I have done.
At first, I could not get connected with wires or without it.
Installing packages was a nighmare.
The error I get when configuring network from Yast is
“Unable to cofigure the network card because of kernel device(eth0, wlan0) is not present. This is mostly caused by missing firmware(for wlan0 devices). Check dmesg”
Dmesg shows: “cannot find firmware file 'intel-ucode /06-0f-od'.”

1. I had already blacklisted the ath5k drivers and downloaded madwifi.. This allows for editing the network in Yast. ( In Network settings, I get 2 cards one ethernet eth0 and the other ath0) I can edit both of them to do configuration. But I could not still get any network.
2.Then I tried updating the kernel as suggested by aus9 in post18.
3.I then installed Wicd. I installed wicd rpm one click package. I could see networks but no connection.
4.I thought it would be a good idea to get my broadband working with USB. There are a few good articles like
http://www.greenhughes.com/content/h...e169g-easy-way
Then this clinched it.I found this http://en.opensuse.org/Huawei_UMTS_USB_Stick
Now got connected with 'umtsmon'.
5. Next step was to check dhcp and dhcpd. Find about about the wpa settings. Then I configured the WPA-PSK settings for wicd
6 . After logging out, I got connected to an internet site.

Thanks to everyone for their help and patience especially aus9.

bamtoy

Last edited by bamtoy; 10-03-2009 at 06:52 AM.
 
  


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