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bamtoy 09-10-2009 12:34 PM

Wireless connection in Opensuse
 
This is the first time I am using Opensuse. I have used Ubutnu 9.04 before.
I am unable to connect to the internet wired or wirelessly.
System:Dual Boot :Vista Home premiumand Opensuse 11.0Opensuse 11.0(i586) kernel 2.6.25.5-1.1 , Kde 3 desktop
Wireless driver is Atheros 242x.
Laptop: ASus F5RL laptop.
-I have checked the Network Settings on Yast and on the Overview tab, it says
L2 100Mbit Ethernet Adapter -- Not configured
AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter -- Not configured.
The notes for Wireless says' Unable to configure the network card because of kernel device(eth0, wlan0) is not present. This is mostly caused by missing firmware(for wlan0 devices). Check dmesg
I have checked and found thatlinux-c9xx firmware.sh[0980]. cannot find firmware file 'intel-ucode /06-0f-od'.
-I searched for 'intel-ucode /06-0f-od' on google and yahoo . did not find anything concrete.-I have unchecked IPV6 on Network settings.

I can see ath0 and my network. But Firefox or Opera cannot access internet.
What is to be done

Bamtoy

aus9 09-10-2009 08:34 PM

hi

using root powers try

Code:

modprobe ath5k
I do not have your hw...but based on this post.
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=75883

if your system then works...you can either put that module into a modules.conf or preload file if Opensuse uses such or /etc/modules or if you can't find such beasts....add a line to rc.local...but if rc.local specify the full pathway not just the module name

so its either

ath5k.....added with root powers to a modules file under /etc or /etc/modulule?/(filename)

or

/sbin/modprobe ath5k ...added with root powers to /etc/rc.local

bamtoy 09-11-2009 05:32 AM

Wireless connection in Opensuse
 
I have used these commands
[QUOTE]modprobe -rv ath5k
echo "blacklist ath5k" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local
rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
udevadm trigger[/QUOTE
and got the wireless connection 'ath0'.
I still cant get to any website.
Maybe to do with Network Manager?

Bamtoy

aus9 09-11-2009 06:06 AM

hi

why did you add ath5k module to a blacklist? I was hoping you would add it to a modules preload list or did you not understand what a blacklist was?

2) did you make a copy of your udev rule before deleting it?
I would hope you move it ...mv if you thought it was interfering?
Can you recall its contents?

mine is not going to help as I am wired.

suggest you open a terminal and su again
modprobe ath5k and report it loads or has error if no error you can run

lsmod | grep ath5k.....and post the results

3) loading the module is a start then you still have to configure the wireless setup

bamtoy 09-11-2009 06:26 AM

Wireless connection in Opensuse
 
Quote:

why did you add ath5k module to a blacklist? I was hoping you would add it to a modules preload list or did you not understand what a blacklist was?
I was told to do so in the opensuse forum. I am a beginner.

Quote:

did you make a copy of your udev rule before deleting it?
I would hope you move it ...mv if you thought it was interfering?
Can you recall its contents?
No I did not make a copy nor do I recall its contents.

Quote:

suggest you open a terminal and su again
modprobe ath5k and report it loads or has error if no error you can run
lsmod | grep ath5k.....and post the results
I will log in to suse box and do that .Will post results.

bamtoy

bamtoy 09-12-2009 06:48 AM

Wireless connection in opensuse
 
I have reinstalled the whole thing.
So now how do I install software? I am not connect by wires nor wirelessly.
Now how do I go about it?

aus9 09-12-2009 09:19 AM

hi

There is not normally a need to do a clean install unless you felt frustrated.

But we have still to resolve your first question and mine.

I am suggesting you load a module called ath5k based on the success the person in the link had. For someone in the opensuse forum to tell you to add it to a blacklist and not explain what happens next may be not so good.....was that the only advice?

could it be they wanted you to blacklist it from cold boot then run it manually...by a modprobe command?

2) yes it is difficult if a new to Linux etc.

Maybe....in the meantime....as the ath5k does not appear to help you start to get networking working .....you might like to get a second opinion and go for a live cd....where that wireless card...works out of the box?

bamtoy 09-12-2009 12:34 PM

Quote:

=aus9;3680006]hi
There is not normally a need to do a clean install unless you felt frustrated.
But we have still to resolve your first question and mine.
I am suggesting you load a module called ath5k based on the success the person in the link had.
Yes I will load ath5k from the dvd. I suppose I have to add DVD.

Quote:

For someone in the opensuse forum to tell you to add it to a blacklist and not explain what happens next may be not so good.....was that the only advice?could it be they wanted you to blacklist it from cold boot then run it manually...by a modprobe command?
The following commands were given and I had done exactly that. I could see wireless networks ath0. However the ext3 partition has been deleted and a new one installed "modprobe -rv ath5k
echo "blacklist ath5k" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local
rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
udevadm trigger"

Quote:

2) yes it is difficult if a new to Linux etc.
Maybe....in the meantime....as the ath5k does not appear to help you start to get networking working .....you might like to get a second opinion and go for a live cd....where that wireless card...works out of the box?
I am looking for how to configure the network settings because the wired and wireless show as 'Not configured'.

bamtoy

aus9 09-12-2009 07:45 PM

ok

lets go back a step.

did they explain why they wanted your ath5k module blacklisted?

if not, why not? Did you tell them you were a beginner?
if not, what alternative did they offer you?

2) since you have already done a clean install....what I am suggesting to you...since you can get on the net ...you have notes howto do it the opensuse way....so no harm in following my suggestions (for now)

3) use root powers to open a text editor and remove the ath5k from the blacklist file

ath5k is not on the dvd.....its a kernel module..you can load kernel modules manually....have the system load modules using a kernel module file....such as /etc/modules.conf or the system can load modules on demand.

so I would like you to try manually first.

Open a terminal and get root power....if you use sudo then the next bit becomes

sudo modprobe ath5k instead of what I have written

Code:

su
modprobe ath5k

4) but assuming that module loads....its only available while you do not shut down or reboot.

I do not have your hardware so can not help there but assuming it loads....we can test it has loaded.

if it reports module not found......----> I have failed you
if no error report we can check if it has loaded by running another command in the terminal which I would like you to keep open

lsmod | grep ath5k


5) You then need to use your network manager to configure the wireless settings.

I do not use Opensuse so not sure how you do it.

but these might help?

http://en.opensuse.org/Tracking_down_wireless_problems

http://en.opensuse.org/WiFi_HOWTO

Be aware the next link...competes against ath5k....it uses a windows driver
http://en.opensuse.org/Wireless_Netw...d_Installation


6) at just to attempt to confuse you more?

your network manager should have only one setting...meaning remove any WIRED or ethernet settings as you are using wifi.

the same is true of old dial up versus wifi versus ethernet.


good luck

ps the first link indicates some succeeded without needing windows drivers thru ndiswrapper...and not using madwifi

you do have options but I have attempted to be more verbose so if you want to use the opensuse forums....ask them politely that they need to explain why they want you to do something.

provide a link please so others can assist?

bamtoy 09-13-2009 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus9 (Post 3680524)
ok
since you have already done a clean install....what I am suggesting to you...since you can get on the net ...you have notes howto do it the opensuse way....so no harm in following my suggestions (for now)

I cannot get on the net wires or no wires.
Quote:

Open a terminal and get root power....if you use sudo then the next bit becomes
sudo modprobe ath5k instead of what I have written
Code:

su
modprobe ath5k


I have done it No output shown and so I presume it loads.

Quote:

4) but assuming that module loads....its only available while you do not shut down or reboot.
I do not have your hardware so can not help there but assuming it loads....we can test it has loaded.
if it reports module not found......----> I have failed you
if no error report we can check if it has loaded by running another command in the terminal which I would like you to keep open
lsmod | grep ath5k
Output of
Code:

lsmod | grep ath5k
ath5k 109572 0
mac80211 190484 | ath5k

Quote:

5) You then need to use your network manager to configure the wireless settings.
I do not use Opensuse so not sure how you do it.
but these might help?
I cannot configure Network cards wired and wireless.
In Yast --> Network settings , Overview tab.
Both wired L2.100 and Ar242x wireless have the 'EDIT' blanked out.
The error says 'firmware not found'
I will read the instructions given in the links provided .

6) at just to attempt to confuse you more?
Quote:

your network manager should have only one setting...meaning remove any WIRED or ethernet settings as you are using wifi.
the same is true of old dial up versus wifi versus ethernet.
I have 2 both not configured. I will read all that you have given.
yes i have posted on the suse forums (where I was told to blacklist ath5k)

bamtoy

aus9 09-13-2009 09:19 AM

thankyou for your patience

but I beg you to ask that forum....if they want you to blacklist...what module or system are they offering as an alternative.

jschiwal 09-13-2009 10:00 AM

With the ath5k kernel module loaded,

please run "sudo /sbin/lspci -v" | sed -n '/Atheros/,/^$/p'
and "sudo /sbin/lspci -n".
The second command will list the manufactures code. We can search the ath5k.c source code and see if it is supported.

Post the results. Also post the results of "uname -r".

The ath5k module does not need firmware cut out.

When I installed openSuSE 11.1 on my Gateway netbook, I couldn't configure it's Atheros wireless device. In my case, the device was too new for the version of the ath5k driver I had, and updating to a newer kernel fixed the problem.

bamtoy 09-13-2009 01:28 PM

Wirelesss connection in suse
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aus9 (Post 3680957)
thankyou for your patience
but I beg you to ask that forum....if they want you to blacklist...what module or system are they offering as an alternative.

Hello aus9,
I was asked to blacklist ath5k and install madwifi.
I had a few posts from that person after that he has not answered.

I also get instructions to install wicd. You see how confusing it is.

Thank you,
bamtoy

bamtoy 09-13-2009 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jschiwal (Post 3680996)
With the ath5k kernel module loaded,
please run "sudo /sbin/lspci -v" | sed -n '/Atheros/,/^$/p'
and "sudo /sbin/lspci -n".
The second command will list the manufactures code. We can search the ath5k.c source code and see if it is supported.
Post the results. Also post the results of "uname -r".
The ath5k module does not need firmware cut out.
When I installed openSuSE 11.1 on my Gateway netbook, I couldn't configure it's Atheros wireless device. In my case, the device was too new for the version of the ath5k driver I had, and updating to a newer kernel fixed the problem.

I have to get ath5k loaded first. I am told that the driver is not available as a package. I must download the source code and compile it.
So let me check how to do that.

thank you.
bamtoy

aus9 09-13-2009 10:48 PM

it is a kernel module...check your /boot/config-(some kernel version name)...mine is shown under # Wireless LAN
CONFIG_ATH5K=m

the m means its a module...if it is a y you have it at boot up...if its n for no then you need to re-compile your kernel....and if that is the case...maybe you need to change your distro...joke

bamtoy 09-14-2009 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus9 (Post 3681738)
it is a kernel module...check your /boot/config-(some kernel version name)...mine is shown under # Wireless LAN
CONFIG_ATH5K=m

the m means its a module...if it is a y you have it at boot up...if its n for no then you need to re-compile your kernel....and if that is the case...maybe you need to change your distro...joke

I have checked the /boot/config for kernel 2.6-25-1.1 default and pae and in the wireless section it does not show Config_ath5k=m or anything with ath5k or any thing like madwifi.
I can copy it from the config file and output the results if you want to.

bamtoy 09-14-2009 11:12 AM

Quote:

=jschiwal;3680996]With the ath5k kernel module loaded,

please run "sudo /sbin/lspci -v" | sed -n '/Atheros/,/^$/p'
sonroy@linux-8aqf:~> sudo /sbin/lspci -v | sed -n '/Atheros/,/^$/p'
root's password:
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
Subsystem: Device 1a3b:1026
Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 16
Memory at fa9f0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=64K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [50] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable-
Capabilities: [60] Express Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00
Capabilities: [90] MSI-X: Enable- Mask- TabSize=1
Kernel modules: ath5k

and
Quote:

"sudo /sbin/lspci -n".
sonroy@linux-8aqf:~> sudo /sbin/lspci -n
00:00.0 0600: 1002:5a31 (rev 01)
00:01.0 0604: 1002:5a3f
00:04.0 0604: 1002:5a36
00:05.0 0604: 1002:5a37
00:06.0 0604: 1002:5a38
00:07.0 0604: 1002:5a39
00:12.0 0106: 1002:4380
00:13.0 0c03: 1002:4387
00:13.1 0c03: 1002:4388
00:13.2 0c03: 1002:4389
00:13.3 0c03: 1002:438a
00:13.4 0c03: 1002:438b
00:13.5 0c03: 1002:4386
00:14.0 0c05: 1002:4385 (rev 13)
00:14.1 0101: 1002:438c
00:14.2 0403: 1002:4383
00:14.3 0601: 1002:438d
00:14.4 0604: 1002:4384
01:05.0 0300: 1002:5a62
02:00.0 0200: 168c:001c (rev 01)
06:00.0 0200: 1969:2048 (rev a0)

Also post the results of
Quote:

"uname -r".
> uname -r
2.6.25.5-1.1-default

Ok let me know. thanks
bamtoy

aus9 09-14-2009 07:27 PM

hi

if you review your post number 12...you report

lsmod | grep ath5k
ath5k 109572 0
mac80211 190484 | ath5k

so maybe you have more than one config file?

Because you were able to load ath5k module.

2)

You report your kernel as 2.6.25.5-1.1-default
My aussie mirror suggests that kernel has been updated to a 2.6.25.20 series


Maybe you may like to update your kernel.



The kernel is the source for Linux drivers.
eg I run a 2.6.30-5 series kernel.

The more the recent the kernel...the more stuff is available for drivers....as a general rule.

aus9 09-14-2009 08:00 PM

hi

this post only refers to one of the competitors to the Linux kernel module ath5k.

it refers to madwifi.

Your ids are manufacturer 1a3b product or model 1026

http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/Compatibility/Atheros

2) the site...does not mention your ids verbosely.

instead we need to guess it may be one (hopefully) of these

AR5006EG
AR5007EG

and trying another way...there appears to be only one mention of asus on that page.

aus9 09-14-2009 08:12 PM

this post tries to explain what I am attempting....with a handball to jschiwal if he thinks I am wrong.

1) Choose method....your chipset may work with a recent Linux kernel from opensuse using ath5k or
it may work using a windows driver and the software called ndiswrapper or
it may work with madwifi...using the madwifi driver or the madwifi's version of their ath5k

2) The easiest is to install the most recent kernel...which is sound security practice....and (initially) manually load (modprobe) the ath5k module then use your network gui to configure wlan....if it works you file a module file to pre-load the ath5k and set up your networks scripts to automatically configure the network

and while manually or automatically having wlan...you should stop/disable any modules and configs that attempt any wired internet thru eth0

3) Next is the madwifi way.....you blacklist the current kernel's ath5k in the blacklist ...to stop it loading....you download the latest madwifi app and install it...the site has docs....but if you download the latest madwifi...and unpack it...it has a folder full of docs. Now if opensuse...version number matches the madwifi site's version ...as you are a beginner..please use the opensuse edition. But it is important to use the most recent edition to maximise the chance the driver will work.

I do not have your hardware so can not help any further on that matter

4) Next is the ndiswrapper way....you have a dual boot and allow the software to find the windows driver...OR...you download the windows driver and either way use it. Naturally you also need to blacklist any module that might attempt to give you a wired or wireless connection

5) Ditto but try wicd for network management instead of your opensuse network manager
http://en.opensuse.org/Wicd#Installation

bamtoy 09-15-2009 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus9 (Post 3682906)
1) Choose method....your chipset may work with a recent Linux kernel from opensuse using ath5k or it may work using a windows driver and the software called ndiswrapper or it may work with madwifi...using the madwifi driver or the madwifi's version of their ath5k

I think I will go for ath5k as madwifi is on the way out.
Quote:

2) The easiest is to install the most recent kernel...which is sound security practice....and (initially) manually load (modprobe) the ath5k module then use your network gui to configure wlan....if it works you file a module file to pre-load the ath5k and set up your networks scripts to automatically configure the network
Is this kernel OK for updating? Do I have to COMPILE it? How do I do that?

http://download.opensuse.org/debug/u...0-0.5.i586.rpm
I got it from this site.
http://www.f-secure.com/vulnerabilities/en/SA200904395
Quote:

3) Next is the madwifi way..
I will try ath5k first

Quote:

5) Ditto but try wicd for network management instead of your opensuse network manager
http://en.opensuse.org/Wicd#Installation
I had used wicd with Ubuntu and have the link(suse) to do it.

bamtoy 09-15-2009 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus9 (Post 3682896)
hi

this post only refers to one of the competitors to the Linux kernel module ath5k.
it refers to madwifi.
Your ids are manufacturer 1a3b product or model 1026
2) the site...does not mention your ids verbosely.
instead we need to guess it may be one (hopefully) of these
AR5006EG
AR5007EG

It seems that AR5007EG is correct seeing some Ubuntu site

bamtoy 09-15-2009 12:43 PM

Hi
I am trying to update the kernel for 2.6.25-1.1 opensuse 11.0.
I got this 'compat-wireless-old.tar.bz2' from this site
http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Do...t-wireless-old to update the driver
I downloaded to my home folder .
I then followed the instructions
Quote:

Extract the content of the package:
Code:

tar jxvf compat-wireless-old.tar.bz2
Build:
Build the latest Linux wireless subsystem:
Code:

cd compat-wireless-old.tar.bz2
make

Install:
We use the updates/ directory so your distribution's drivers are left intact.
Code:

sudo make install

Output of
Code:

cd compat-wireless-old.tar.bz2
make

tar: compat-wireless-old.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
tar: Child returned status 2
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

I cant get anywhere with the kernel update.

aus9 09-15-2009 06:28 PM

hi

your post #23....please update your kernel using your package manager.

I do not use Opensuse so look at your dox on how that is done please. this might work?
http://en.opensuse.org/Start_the_YaST_Control_Center

2) when you update it...you will need to reboot your computer and use grub/lilo or whatever bootloader you use...to select the latest kernel and boot into it.


3) the instruction on this page appears to be wrong
http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Do...t-wireless-old

cd....ending in bz2 is an error...delete the bz2 as you should have already unpacked a folder.

BUT that way requires you to build a module but when you previously modprobe ath5k...you already had
mac80211 190484 | ath5k.....as previously reported

4) Can I suggest you concentrate on upgrading your distro's kernel

if you do not know how to do that after reading the link...start a new thread in this forum
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/susenovell-60/

because maybe you have got to have some files installed that you are lacking and I have no expertise on suse like distros.

bamtoy 09-16-2009 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus9 (Post 3684264)
hi
please update your kernel using your package manager.

No internet.It wont work with my package manager.

Quote:

4) Can I suggest you concentrate on upgrading your distro's kernel
Yes I am doing that.
Quote:

if you do not know how to do that after reading the link...start a new thread in this forum
I have started a new thread as suggested.

bamtoy 09-18-2009 11:19 AM

I tried to do an update of kernels but get this.
sonroy@linux-8aqf:~> cd linux-2.6.31
sonroy@linux-8aqf:~/linux-2.6.31> make
HOSTCC scripts/basic/fixdep
HOSTCC scripts/basic/docproc
HOSTCC scripts/basic/hash
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/conf.o
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/kxgettext.o
SHIPPED scripts/kconfig/zconf.tab.c
SHIPPED scripts/kconfig/lex.zconf.c
SHIPPED scripts/kconfig/zconf.hash.c
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/zconf.tab.o
HOSTLD scripts/kconfig/conf
scripts/kconfig/conf -s arch/x86/Kconfig
***
*** You have not yet configured your kernel!
*** (missing kernel config file ".config")
***
*** Please run some configurator (e.g. "make oldconfig" or
*** "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig").
***
make[2]: *** [silentoldconfig] Error 1
make[1]: *** [silentoldconfig] Error 2
make: *** No rule to make target `include/config/auto.conf', needed by `include/config/kernel.release'. Stop.
sonroy@linux-8aqf:~/linux-2.6.31>
---
I have tried to update but wont work.

aus9 09-18-2009 07:47 PM

hi

question 1)
Does your new post here, mean that no-one in Novell forum could help you update your kernel?

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...use-11-755554/

sorry to sound rude but I need to be re-phrase to be clearer...

I have said according to my repos...your kernel number is NOT the most recent available to you.

I have asked you to update your kernel meaning update to the lastest Opensuse kernel.

Maybe you should state what kernel number you have and what is available and ask ....how do I update?

I can not help you....I do not use Opensuse but someone there must know?

Do you know how to search your repo using a web browser?
here is mine assuming you have opensuse 11.0

http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/o...11.0/rpm/i586/

you could try downloading the
kernel-default-2.6.25.20.0-5.i586.rpm
and clicking on it in your file manager that may call up the root rpm manager?


question 2)
I think you are using a vanilla kernel. Can you confirm pls?

3) leaping ahead.....the way I compile a vanilla kernel may not be the Suse way but since you may be asking for any kind of help, forgive me for my input.

A)
altho some parts can be done without root powers assume all below do pls

Your distro should have dox on what dependencies your system need before compile can occur...eg gcc
use root powers to make directory (if not there)
mkdir /usr/src/

i) downloading your distro's kernel source files may be enough to get those dependencies?

the unpack of your vanilla can be in a different folder but symlinks to /usr/src/linux

eg ln -s /opt/2.6.31 /usr/src/linux

You may also need other symlinks but lets move on.

Code:

su
cd /opt/2.6.31
make mrproper
make menuconfig
make && make modules && make modules_install && make install

then check your distro script has updated grub...if not put a kernel into /boot/ and run update-grub

your distro should also make a new initrd for you..if not you may have to run a command that MAY be called
mkinitrd but I am not sure what suse calls it

4) I really really can not help you find out what your missing dependencies might be...but by running those commands..... your system will complain if its missing stuff so then you use your package manager to install them.

summary

suggest you rephrase your question if downloading the rpm file from the link I pointed to does not work....at the other link in novell forum

bamtoy 09-19-2009 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus9 (Post 3689162)
hi
question 1)
sorry to sound rude but I need to be re-phrase to be clearer...

Yes you are right.I have not written it correctly in my question. The web search shows compiling a kernel and I think that is different from updating.
I have read doc on compiling and updating, both seem similar. So the confusion.

Quote:

Do you know how to search your repo using a web browser?
here is mine assuming you have opensuse 11.0
I have not come across such mirrors, so that means I dont know how to do it.
So how do I find a mirror for the UK?

Quote:

you could try downloading the kernel-default-2.6.25.20.0-5.i586.rpm
and clicking on it in your file manager that may call up the root rpm manager?
I found kernel 2.6.31 on http://kernel.org/.
I used make , make install commands . does not work. I will wait for an answer on the network forum.
Here is the output.
bamtoy@linux-8aqf:~/linux-2.6.31> make
HOSTCC scripts/basic/fixdep
HOSTCC scripts/basic/docproc
HOSTCC scripts/basic/hash
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/conf.o
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/kxgettext.o
SHIPPED scripts/kconfig/zconf.tab.c
SHIPPED scripts/kconfig/lex.zconf.c
SHIPPED scripts/kconfig/zconf.hash.c
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/zconf.tab.o
HOSTLD scripts/kconfig/conf
scripts/kconfig/conf -s arch/x86/Kconfig
***
*** You have not yet configured your kernel!
*** (missing kernel config file ".config")
***
*** Please run some configurator (e.g. "make oldconfig" or
*** "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig"



Quote:

question 2)
I think you are using a vanilla kernel. Can you confirm pls?
It should be . It is downloaded from suse site. It is 2.6.25.1.1 default.

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3) leaping ahead.....the way I compile a vanilla kernel may not be the Suse way but since you may be asking for any kind of help, forgive me for my input.
It is tough to compile a kernel.The documents I read , show a lot of commands to run.

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altho some parts can be done without root powers assume all below do pls
Your distro should have dox on what dependencies your system need before compile can occur...eg gcc
Are you talking about these
gcc-4.3-34.168.i586.rpm
gcc-c++-4.3-34.168.i586.rpm
gcc43-c++-4.3.3_20081022-9.5.i586.rpm
gcc43-4.3.3_20081022-9.5.i586.rpm
make-3.81-128.9.i586.rpm
cmake-2.6.2-2.19.i586.rpm
kernel-source-2.6.27.7-9.1.i586.rpm
linux-kernel-headers-2.6.27-2.28.noarch.rpm
They are the dependencies before compiling. Yes I tried downloading them
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use root powers to make directory (if not there)
mkdir /usr/src/
i) downloading your distro's kernel source files may be enough to get those dependencies?
I will check this.
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summary
suggest you rephrase your question if downloading the rpm file from the link I pointed to does not work....at the other link in novell forum
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If 2.6.31 does not work , then I will use 2.6.25.20 as you suggested.
Thank you very much.

mobinskariya 09-19-2009 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bamtoy (Post 3689467)

I found kernel 2.6.31 on http://kernel.org/.
I used make , make install commands . does not work. I will wait for an answer on the network forum.
Here is the output.
bamtoy@linux-8aqf:~/linux-2.6.31> make
HOSTCC scripts/basic/fixdep
HOSTCC scripts/basic/docproc
HOSTCC scripts/basic/hash
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/conf.o
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/kxgettext.o
SHIPPED scripts/kconfig/zconf.tab.c
SHIPPED scripts/kconfig/lex.zconf.c
SHIPPED scripts/kconfig/zconf.hash.c
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/zconf.tab.o
HOSTLD scripts/kconfig/conf
scripts/kconfig/conf -s arch/x86/Kconfig
***
*** You have not yet configured your kernel!
*** (missing kernel config file ".config")
***
*** Please run some configurator (e.g. "make oldconfig" or
*** "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig"




It should be . It is downloaded from suse site. It is 2.6.25.1.1 default.


It is tough to compile a kernel.The documents I read , show a lot of commands to run.

you have to run
Code:

make menuconfig
before running
Code:

make

bamtoy 09-19-2009 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobinskariya (Post 3689500)
you have to run
Code:

make menuconfig
before running
Code:

make

Before doing anything I must know the difference between compiling a kernel and updating a kernel.
Is it the same as building a kernel . What is configuring a kernel?
PHP Code:

http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/compat-wireless-old says
1. Extract the content of the package: [CODE]
tar jxvf compat-wireless-old.tar.bz2[/CODE]
2. Build the latest Linux wireless subsystem
[
QUOTE]cd compat-wireless-old.tar.bz2 make[/QUOTE]
3. Install
[
QUOTE]sudo make install[/QUOTE

PHP Code:

http://www.lucidtips.com/2008/09/06/wireless-using-w200-on-opensuse-110/
Before we proceed further we need to configure the kernel source
[CODE]cd /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/
su
(root password)
cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) .config
make oldconfig
make prepare
[/CODE]
Download the suitable revision of the orinoco_usb driver from SVN. For me revision 1297 has worked correctly.
Compile and install the driver
[CODE]cd usb
make
sudo make install
[/CODE

So you see I get confused.

aus9 09-19-2009 10:19 AM

ok you are confused

lets keep it simple?

click on my internode link and scroll down to that kernel name.

assuming you are right handed...right hand click and choose

"save link as" or words to that effect.

if that does not allow you to download and save the file....then left click the filename and see if your web browser gives you options to save the file?

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I had 2 parts to my post.
part 1 was for upgrading/updating which is the easiest option I prefer you do

part 2 was for vanilla.

ZZZ) Do not concern yourself with the next bit

I think you are using a vanilla kernel. Can you confirm pls?

Your answer was
It should be . It is downloaded from suse site. It is 2.6.25.1.1 default.


ok....wrong...lol

any kernel you download from any distro...well most distros....will not be a vanilla kernel.

your opensuse 2.6.25.1.1 is compiled by them as a 586 architecture and is no longer vanilla.

vanilla means untainted...pure and comes from kernel.org

However, opensuse has "kernel sources"
this is kind of vanilla and means the source kernel from which they derived the config file and kernel to give them
(in your case) your 586 style kernel.


so there is nothing wrong in you learning to compile a vanilla kernel to tune it to your hardware...BUT that is not the same as upgrading your distro's kernel

ok?

bamtoy 09-19-2009 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus9 (Post 3689709)
click on my internode link and scroll down to that kernel name.
assuming you are right handed...right hand click and choose
"save link as" or words to that effect.
if that does not allow you to download and save the file....then left click the filename and see if your web browser gives you options to save the file?

I have downloaded the file.
I have downloaded many rpm files, so that is not the problem. I have downloaded gcc, make, etc. I am unable to update the kernel.
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I think you are using a vanilla kernel. Can you confirm pls?
Your answer was. It should be . It is downloaded from suse site. It is 2.6.25.1.1 default.
ok....wrong...lol.any kernel you download from any distro...well most distros....will not be a vanilla kernel.your opensuse 2.6.25.1.1 is compiled by them as a 586 architecture and is no longer vanilla.vanilla means untainted...pure and comes from kernel.org
Thanks. I have no idea. Lol. So 2.6.31 I downloaded from kernel.org is vanilla.
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so there is nothing wrong in you learning to compile a vanilla kernel to tune it to your hardware...BUT that is not the same as upgrading your distro's kernel
The replies I got was for compiling. I have downloaded so many gcc, make, cmake files and could not get to update the kernel so far.
Thank you for your patience.
bamtoy.

bamtoy 09-20-2009 02:10 PM

Update kernel
 
Hi
I have downlaoded kernel default 2.6.25.20.rpm file to suse. How do I update my kernel?

Regards,
bamtoy

aus9 09-20-2009 08:23 PM

hi

try clicking on it in your filemanager....and hopefully that calls up the rpm manager to install it.

but I do not use Opensuse as already mentioned so you may need to get help in the other post as I am not an expert in Opensuse.

2) this has taken you some time.....and you may be getting impatient?

while waiting for a better answer and or doing a search of your opensuse dox....consider downloading and running a live cd or an install cd/dvd....that has a more up-to-date kernel that might already have the ath5k qualities you desire?

I am NOT trying to force you away from Opensuse. But if another distro works for you out of the box ....for ath5k your pain may be less?

www.distrowatch.com shows distros and clicking the relevant pages shows their kernel numbers...under the word...linux

eg
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu

now I do not like ubuntu but they have independent forums from LQ and as you can see they have a 2.6.31 kernel and that may be a install product.

whereas puppy definately live...k 2.6.30
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=puppy

bamtoy 09-22-2009 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus9 (Post 3691069)
hi
try clicking on it in your filemanager....and hopefully that calls up the rpm manager to install it.

I have updated 2.6.25.20.0-5 and I logged into it already(grub menu).
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2) I am NOT trying to force you away from Opensuse. But if another distro works for you out of the box ....for ath5k your pain may be less?
I have already been on Ubuntu 9.04. The only thing about it was it always connected with wires. Wireless was the same nightmare. I got as far as wicd.

Update: In suse ,I have the done the following again and can 'edit' the network configuration for wireless.
[quote]modprobe -rv ath5k
echo "blacklist ath5k" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local
rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
udevadm trigger[/QUOTE
But this is as far as I can get.
After that, tried wicd.
I have downloaded wicd and can see my network with full strength.
But I get the error 'Cant find the ip address'
bamtoy

aus9 09-22-2009 06:57 PM

ok I have failed to explain my method to you .....lets rephrase my request.

1) get the latest kernel....done...great
2) do not blacklist ath5k if using this kernel's module

unfortunately as I was not clear on the different methods...somehow you still believed you needed to blacklist.

so now use root powers to delete the entry of ath5k in your blacklist file

3) then re-attempt using what ever way Opensuse uses to configure a wireless network

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Now it is acceptable to leave that ath5k in your blacklist file
if and only if

a)you want to use a module from some other source also called ath5k...such as from madwifi

Or
b) use some other way to get wirelesss working without your distro's module ath5k loading.

is that clearer?

bamtoy 09-23-2009 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus9 (Post 3693501)
ok I have failed to explain my method to you .....lets rephrase my request.
1) get the latest kernel....done...great
2) do not blacklist ath5k if using this kernel's module
unfortunately as I was not clear on the different methods...somehow you still believed you needed to blacklist.

No it had nothing to do with what you said. You were clear.
It is just that I had tried so many things. The only thing that ever worked was to install madwifi for the kernel and then blacklisted ath5k. There are many posts that say that ath5k does not work with AR242x drivers. And most importantly, when I do it, I can get an EDIT on the wireless driver in Network settings(Yast --> Network --> Networksettings) and this allows me to configure the wireless card.
Nothing else , allows me to edit and configure the card.

Secondly, the other thing that shows networks is WIcd, but again it cannot get the IP address. So am looking for all posts for this error.
If this does not work , then I will try something else.
I will go back to removing the blacklist as you said if this also does not work.
Thank you for your patience.
BY THE WAY, Yesterday I could connect to the internet with my USB dongle.:)

bamtoy 10-03-2009 05:51 AM

Wireless connection [SOLVED]
 
Hi All,
I have finally got wireless connection. I am using wireless for a few days now and there are no problems.

I have tried a lot of things but Wicd seems to be the charm.

Here are the things I have done.
At first, I could not get connected with wires or without it.
Installing packages was a nighmare.
The error I get when configuring network from Yast is
“Unable to cofigure the network card because of kernel device(eth0, wlan0) is not present. This is mostly caused by missing firmware(for wlan0 devices). Check dmesg”
Dmesg shows: “cannot find firmware file 'intel-ucode /06-0f-od'.”

1. I had already blacklisted the ath5k drivers and downloaded madwifi.. This allows for editing the network in Yast. ( In Network settings, I get 2 cards one ethernet eth0 and the other ath0) I can edit both of them to do configuration. But I could not still get any network.
2.Then I tried updating the kernel as suggested by aus9 in post18.
3.I then installed Wicd. I installed wicd rpm one click package. I could see networks but no connection.
4.I thought it would be a good idea to get my broadband working with USB. There are a few good articles like
http://www.greenhughes.com/content/h...e169g-easy-way
Then this clinched it.I found this http://en.opensuse.org/Huawei_UMTS_USB_Stick
Now got connected with 'umtsmon'.
5. Next step was to check dhcp and dhcpd. Find about about the wpa settings. Then I configured the WPA-PSK settings for wicd
6 . After logging out, I got connected to an internet site.

Thanks to everyone for their help and patience especially aus9.

bamtoy


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