Windows PC Laptop maxed out at 4 partitions (2 hidden system), what can I do?
Gateway NV75S Laptop. I want to install Linux onto it.
But there is a problem: 2 partitions are already used by hidden install media and system files. It has installation media in a hidden 15GB partition. It has proprietary recovery and other utilities in a hidden 100MB partition. That leaves 2 partitions. One is for Windoze7, the other is for my Data. Having Data in a separate one has proven to be a prudent and useful policy, and not some useless procedure, several times throughout my decades of using computers. I don't want to change that. In fact, my Windoze is acting up again, so this is no time to be merging my data partition with the OS partition. I have tried making an extended partition off of C:Windoze, but Linux installer does not appear to be able to use that. I don't want to sacrifice the install media, because I will need to dual-boot and switch to windows to run some CAD software (for which look-alikes are not a possible substitute), and because it's Windoze, need to retain the capability to have it do a factory-reinstall when everything goes to hell. Here is a picture of my partition table. https://ibb.co/cYgW0v I don't know how to embed an image here. Are there any other solutions that come to mind? Anyone? I am thinking of a partition utility that allows to go beyond the maximum of 4 partitions, without going to extended partitions... does that even exist? Otherwise, if anyone has experience with these Laptops and their hidden install routines, would you know if the two can be merged, and which should be made the primary in order for the boot factory setup routine to work? Don't know if either of those are potential solutions... just thinking out loud here, about potential avenues to explore together. Thanks! :) Moderators: I wasn't sure where to place this thread. If there is a better location, please move it there. Thanks. :) |
You're pretty much stuck. Linux requires at least one primary partition. It's just not going to work the way it is.
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Yes. There are several. I faced this on a laptop a while back. The problem is you probably have four primary partitions, and you are unable to make another partition. This is normal for a non GPT partitioned drive.
What I did was I backed up the smallest partition onto external media. Then I deleted that partition. I shrank C: to make enough space for a linux install. I created a new extended partition ( not primary ) and added the partitions to that, one for the data I had removed, and three others for linux. Linux will boot from an extended partition without problems. Another solution would be to install Virtual Box on windows. Then install linux in v-box. This allows you the possibility to install several distros, use them and determine which one you like best. Another possibility would be to buy an external drive, and install linux there. This is more difficult for a new user, since booting from an external drive is more difficult to set up. Of these three ways, v-box is less risky for a new user. It does not require partitioning. If you do decide to re-partition, use windows tools to shrink C:. Once done, you can use linux tools to do the rest. |
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My mistake. Last time I looked /boot had to be primary. I guess it all depends on how much trouble one is willing to go through. All problems can theoretically be solved.
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All you need to do is reduce the size of your ExFAT sda5 partition and create a new extended Linux partition (or partitions if you want separate ones for /, /home, /boot and/or data, for example). Of course, as an alternative, there are utilities to convert MBR disks to GPT. As it is, you have a wasted chunk of 100GB in the middle there. You should try incorporating it into the extended partition space (not all partition managers will allow this). |
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Physics, not computereze: Data is on the physical area where the drive is at it's most reliable. Ferrite is spread with the same density throughout the surface - on the perimeter you simply have more atoms available for every bit that is written, less chance of errors/bad sectors there. So Linux would be given a prime location just before that. |
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If you insist on keeping the first 3 primary partitions (sda 1-3), then any further partitions you create must be created as extended partitions. You are only allowed one set of extended partitions so, again as it stands, any further partitions must be created under sda4. If you stick with MBR that is. |
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Looking at your picture, I see that the data partition is partition 5 within extended partition 4. All you need to do is
> expand the extended partition 4 to include the area you've freed up > move partition 5 to the start > add 6 (/) and 7 (/home) at the end. |
Here's an idea:
Is there a way to just edit the MBR and rem (comment-out) references to the first 2 partitions? So that the system ignores them, doesn't see them, partition tools don't see them? (and if I need them, I just un-rem those lines in the MBR) |
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I have opened a space of 104GB for a Linux partition to be put there. What concerns me here, is that the extended partition was not meant to be one. I am really not sure how I ended up with that. Could it be that a partition resizing tool made it into an extended, when originally it was a primary? This was created before I recovered windoze, and it was another primary at the time. Puzzling... Anyways, I think that is something I would want to fix. Get DATA onto a primary. |
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You could have already solved this problem, made the required changes, installed Linux, and be surfing pictures of cats on Reddit if you had listened to some of the advice that has been given. |
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