Windows 95 OS - would like to install Linux
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This is my first post. I have brought down an old pc built in the mid 1990's from the attic which has Windows 95 and is not currently linked to the internet. I can download and save any necessary setup files to disk using my XP and install in the W95 which has a working cd-rom. The specifications of my pc are: 100 MHz Pentium Processor, 16MB RAM, 812MB hard drive (508MB free). I am interested in installing DSL (is this the right one?) but saving my W95, so I can have use of both systems. What is the best way to do this? I may eventually try to link this to the internet, but my broadband provider says W95 is not compatible (could I bypass through DSL?). In addition I'd have to work on external modems, drivers, ethernet adaptors.... It does not even have a USB port! Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Tim |
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http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php Boot it, and use it to resize the windows 95 partition. After that, you can create a new partition for linux on the free space. That's all you need. Quote:
The ISP doesn't need to be compatible with anything. If the modem works all should go straight. Quote:
A real external modem should work out of the box under any OS. |
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You may have some boot issues with your older BIOS. Distributions today use a 8K block with older BIOS for CDROM expect a 4K Block. You could always roll back to some earlier release dates for a particular distribution. |
definitely try to find more ram. it's likely EDO (and non-ECC), check the limits of your motherboard (aka mobo) for max Mb and number of modules. look for rev # or pcb # on the board to identify, if that matters in the info you find.
edo is so old, it's rare on craigslist. but sometimes people post pentium "1". or 486. can reassemble to get the best result. or maybe find a newer pc, running win98se. oldest pII used EDO, still. pci nic cards are easy to find. you should connect nic via ethernet cable to router (which connects to the isp's broadband modem). newest win95 was best. http://www.google.com/search?q=newes...osr2+b+|+c+usb get kerio 2.5.1 (it's about the lightest app firewall). use bz ruleset (dslreports). avast, if you want antivirus (email register, else free). avast is "active scan", not "scan on demand", though. maybe there's a way to shutoff the "active" part. opera 9.x or kmeleon for browser. bazillion win32 text editors to choose. :-) irfanview i think works on win95. the best all around media viewer. http://sourceforge.net/projects/sevenzip/ ok on w95 ok, i have a question. I wondered about running basic gui desktop distros on old pcs. and have read the older nix kernels are "lighter". but i wonder, comparing older kernel to current: 1. what's missing? (wifi and other recent hardware compat?) 2. how to be sure the older kernels are being patched? may seem that i'm half hijacking this thread. except my 2 questions pertain to nix on ooolllddd pcs. :-) |
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Even with the 2.4 kernel you could support wifi with some popular cards. I know that Slackware is still maintained back to release 8.0 which had the 2.4 kernel. As for the 'X' you should have as much memory on the MB and as much available memory on the graphics card. Some older graphics cards had memory expansion. You might find it hard to find some of the memory to max out the card. As for the older kernels being lighter, tough one there. I weighed the kernel. :) As for foot print then yes the 2.4 has a smaller foot print then the 2.6. You can fit the 2.4 on a 1.44 MB floppy, you can't do that with a 2.6 kernel. I would try the newer 2.6 based distribution an see if it is compatible with your hardware. You could step back to earlier releases of a particular distro to test. I like Slackware an use the 2.4 kernel on older hardware (release 10,11,12) I don't want to try the 12.1 as some of the hardware is legacy an I know it would be too much work with minimal gain. I would make sure that you at least max out the memory on the motherboard of the older system. |
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http://www.eu.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/ 2.4.36.8 was released just a week ago. You can look at the dates and see that the updates are regular. So, if your hardware can work with 2.4 and you are running short on resources, I'd use 2.4. |
OK. Using 2.4 distros looks good for the older pcs. I didn't want to risk thrashing my main computer, so I tried many LiveCDs on some older 300 MHz, 384MB (minus onboard video), and ran into problems. Eventually I concluded these were the troubles:
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The good thing is that, if it really works, there's no need to fix it. 2.6 has become really flexible with lots of new things, new schedulers that can be added, new machanisms to handle your devices, and the base to include drivers on the user land via libusb, fuse, etc... It's a really modern kernel with a very clever design in my opinion (not that I am an expert). In any case, that makes extending it quite easy, so, any needed thing can be added without any huge effort. Until something important changes, I don't think that we will need a 2.8 kernel. :p This means that there's a long way before 2.6 becomes "the previous kernel". However, I have no idea about the plans for 2.4, but I don't think that it will be dropped in any near future. There's a huge lot of hardware using these kernels. So, the security patches are assured for now. |
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The 2.4 kernel is going to be supported and around for a long time. It is a stable kernel and is still used on a lot of servers. No need for a lot of the new bells an whistles that the 2.6 has, plus the stability of the 2.6 is no where near the 2.4. Your older hardware may use the support of the 2.6 once you get past some of the legacy problems. If your hardware supports PXE or even USB boot then you could look a modern distribution. |
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