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Dean in Ventura 09-21-2016 02:06 PM

tried them all. it's something to do with WINDOWS 8 I read it on a forum or something somewhere that microsoft put some kind of "PROTECTION" in place to have their stupid windows boot first. Soon as I get the USN to fire I'm off to the races.

Just got this one stumbling block.

Heeerrrrrumph

Timothy Miller 09-21-2016 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean in Ventura (Post 5608365)
tried them all. it's something to do with WINDOWS 8 I read it on a forum or something somewhere that microsoft put some kind of "PROTECTION" in place to have their stupid windows boot first. Soon as I get the USN to fire I'm off to the races.

Just got this one stumbling block.

Heeerrrrrumph

Incorrect, M$ didn't do anything to prevent booting of USB's other than secure boot, and even that doesn't prevent it's boot if it's got a signed kernel.

Shadow_7 09-21-2016 02:29 PM

Pre-2006 computers don't support booting from USB. But you can boot usb from a bootable optical option. If it still has a functioning optical drive.

grub-mkrescue and other ways to generate a bootloader image to burn to disc. With btmgr / plop being the simpler pre-made usb boot image.

https://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagers.html

Emerson 09-21-2016 02:54 PM

I have had mixed success with "boot from USB floppy drive", some boards actually boot from USB stick with this option.

rokytnji 09-21-2016 02:54 PM

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CAN ANYONE HELP? Please. Surely someone out there has suffered the same fate. This isn't the only HP ENVY M6 sleekbook
Here ya go. I am just going by what you are posting.

Linky

petelq 09-22-2016 04:01 AM

I have an HP desktop and although I have it set to boot from USB if there is one plugged in, I have to press F8 during POST to get the choice on screen. I can then choose USB and carry on from there.
I can't guarantee it for your laptop, of course, but it's worth a try.

Dean in Ventura 09-22-2016 09:51 AM

Thanks for your suggestions fellas. And that F8 option might work.
I don't have the HP with me until next Monday. I've decided to go off the grid so headed to the mountains for a few days!

Shadow_7 09-22-2016 11:39 PM

I have the hp stream 11. Once you hit the power you spam the ESCape key for the menus (closest key to the power button). Then F9 to select a boot medium. And down one arrow for my usb drive. Down two selects the internal one in my case. Kind of memorized since I dropped one of the two hp stream 11's and I shattered the screen. Which is fine for HDMI out once at a distro login, but grub ONLY shows up on the built in display (if it functioned).

Dean in Ventura 09-29-2016 12:24 PM

It was the F9 boys! Which I tried before but for some reason today it worked lickety split. The only thing on my install (installing UBUNTU 12.04 LTS by the way) is that it didn't ask me about sizing partition. I'm not a WINDOWS man, DEF not a WINDOWS 8 man and I don't care if I have WINDOWS 8 at all. This computer almost went in to a recycler. ANY IDEA HOW I CAN CHAGE THE PARTITION SIZING POST UBUNTU INSTALL?

Timothy Miller 09-29-2016 01:31 PM

Any reason for the old version? 14.04 and 16.04 are both LTS versions, the 12.04 only has about 8 months of support left before it's officially declared end of life. I'd definitely upgrade to 14.04 at the least, and 16.04 is worth it IMO.

Dean in Ventura 09-29-2016 01:44 PM

OK I've got 14.04 I'm just learning / [playing with UBUNTU. Pretty quick. Million times quicker than the windows 8 bollox HOW CAN I DELETE WINDOWS 8 COMPLETELY and release ALL THAT SPACE for my music and photo files etc?

yancek 09-29-2016 04:29 PM

Boot Ubuntu and open a terminal and run the following commands consecutively and post the output here and someone should be able to give you more detailed instructions. The commands will output information on your drives/partitions.

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sudo fdisk -l
sudo parted -l
Lower Case Letter L in both commands.

chrism01 09-29-2016 11:28 PM

yancek's advice will provide the info we need, but to be honest, if you haven't got much personal stuff eg docs etc on yet, you may be better to to just install 16.04 now and just tell it to use all the disk at install time (default I believe, but do check).

dave@burn-it.co.uk 10-05-2016 10:49 AM

I see you have it set to USB diskette.
Have you tried USB hard drive for that setting?
The two are different and expect a different format for the drive. If the drive has been patitioned, even with just one partition, it is behaving like a hard drive.
A diskette drive has no partitions as such and the structure is different.

doug9694 10-05-2016 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean in Ventura (Post 5608324)
FIRSTLY I AM A COMPUTER ILLITERATE. I've been trying to get LINUX on an old laptop for two mornings now and I am losing my mind.

So my friend Francis Dunnery suggested I try "revamping" an old laptop with LINUX. Great. have my daughters old HP envy she doesn't use, it's got windows 8.1 installed. I've downloaded UBUNTU 12 (thinking going with an older version might be easier?), I've downloaded the universal USB installer 1.9.6.6

My thing is this ..... the stupid HP won't even let my try and boot from USB stick. Opens up in the main profile every time. I've searched far and wide, I've done everything I'm meant to do and STILL can't get the laptop to fire the USB.

I restart in F10. I change the start up options, I changed the LEGACY OPTION. Still no luck.

CAN ANYONE HELP? Please. Surely someone out there has suffered the same fate. This isn't the only HP ENVY M6 sleekbook

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Maybe the USB drivers need updating? Or even perhaps upgrade to a newer op system.


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