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Old 01-09-2018, 03:51 AM   #1
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Why did Brother printer driver install successfully?


I began using Linux, for the first time, a week ago, installing Linux Mint 18.3 as a dual boot with Windows 7. Apart from some minor hardware bugs, I'm much impressed, particularly with Wine. This is my first post on a Linux forum.

Yesterday, I tried to install a driver for my WiFi printer, an old Brother DCP-J140W. Since this printer was not in Mint's list, I installed with little confidence Linux (rpm), whatever that is, from the Brother website. The install took forever, downloading a few hundred MB, and asking some cryptic questions at the end, such as Device URL. Googling was confusing, so I guessed improbable responses. The log seemed to show an error or two.

Here's the strange thing: I can actually print to my Brother network printer from Linux! How can this be?

Can just about any Brother Printer, even a decade old, be used with Linux? Is Canon the same?
 
Old 01-09-2018, 04:07 AM   #2
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Welcome to LQ.

The short explanation is: Things landed jammy side up! There is a bit of auto-detection in some of these drivers and your printer may be good at announcing itself.

Don't complain; There'll be plenty of times when you post: "I've done everything right and it STILL won't work." FWIW, installing my cheapo HP Laser mono Printer was a nightmare.
 
Old 01-09-2018, 05:43 AM   #3
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I agree with business_kid. You got lucky; enjoy the fact..!

Admittedly, installing printers can be a bit of a PITA under Linux. Some manufacturers still don't think it's a large enough market to make it worth their while.

I've always used Epsons. They've been making printers since the year dot; ever since the beginning of the 'home computer revolution', back in the '80's. They've supported printing under Linux for a very long while.....but it's only in recent years that they've actually admitted to this fact. For a long while, their Linux drivers were developed and produced for them by another Japanese company, Avasys. Around 3 years ago, Avasys said 'That's it; we're not doing this anymore', and passed control of the repository back to Epson.....who, for around 9 months, sat on it, and kept schtum about the fact. At that time, if you spoke to any of their company spokespeople, you got a very loud, clear message; 'We don't support Linux'. Yet the drivers were there!

I guess the increasing popularity of Linux as a viable market finally got the better of them, and around 2 1/2 years ago, they started publishing their Linux drivers on the normal downloads page.

The rest, as they say, is history.


Mike.

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Old 01-09-2018, 05:59 AM   #4
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From what I've read, it seems Brother printers are generally well supported under Linux, so it may be the reason why it worked OOB.
 
Old 01-09-2018, 07:35 AM   #5
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Please download the file linked below for your printer.
download.brother.com/welcome/dlf006893/linux-brprinter-installer-2.2.0-1.gz

Then open a Terminal.
Type sudo -s to be root (root is the administrator of a Linux-system)
Then navigate to the folder where you saved the .gz file.
E.g. The file is in the Downloads-folder.
In most situations it is enough to type cd Downloads (Linux uses File Systems that are case-sensitive)
You have to unpack that archive.
Do that with gzip -d linux-brprinter-installer-2.2.0-1.gz.
Then you have a script.
The type sh linux-brprinter-installer-2.2.0-1.
The you will be guided through the installation.
DeviceURI should be the IP from the printer if you like to use a network for printing.
 
Old 01-09-2018, 08:05 AM   #6
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I really like printing from Linux, I've had a lot more problems setting up printers on Windows.
 
Old 01-09-2018, 09:25 AM   #7
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My Brother MFC 295 works fine with this driver. It is not very difficult to install it.
If you need help, just ask.
 
Old 01-09-2018, 11:58 AM   #8
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Hi,

As it was suggested, go to the brother website, go to the download part and look up your printer model.
Download the installation the tool. It is pretty simple and it works. I have installed several Brother printers on different *.rpm and *.deb Distros and it works all the time. Good luck!
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Old 01-09-2018, 12:01 PM   #9
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I have linked the correct file. Use that link.
Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu so it does not support rpm Packages directly. The linked archive from me includes a shell script that downloads automacally the right .deb files and installs them. It includes printer and scanner driver.
No need to download them seperately.
 
Old 01-09-2018, 02:20 PM   #10
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yes, the *.deb file (screenshot) is used for Debian based distros such as ubuntu and Mint. Good luck!
 
Old 01-09-2018, 02:51 PM   #11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_Walsh View Post
...Avasys said 'That's it; we're not doing this anymore', and passed control of the repository back to Epson.....who, for around 9 months, sat on it, and kept schtum about the fact. At that time, if you spoke to any of their company spokespeople, you got a very loud, clear message; 'We don't support Linux'. Yet the drivers were there!...
Which explains the aggro I went through getting an Epson scanner working (finally found a backup of an Avasys driver). The result was Epson joining Canon on my list of manufacturers to avoid.
 
Old 01-09-2018, 06:23 PM   #12
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Which explains the aggro I went through getting an Epson scanner working (finally found a backup of an Avasys driver). The result was Epson joining Canon on my list of manufacturers to avoid.
Mm! It was a right 'dog's dinner' a few years back with the Epson driver situation. You were lucky to find Linux stuff at all. How things have changed. They now have a number of 'generic' Linux drivers which basically cover the entire range.....probably going back well over 15 years or so. Then there's more 'specialised' drivers for 'full-feature use' on the majority of models.

Scanners have always been a wee bit finicky with Epson. Unlike HP, for instance, who do an 'all-in-one' driver suite for their all-in-one models, Epson have always published their scanner (and scanner data) packages separately. For an 'all-in-one', you install the printer driver first, followed by the scanner data package.....and finally, the scanner driver. (If you don't install the 'data' package first, the scanner driver install will fail, since it requires what's in the 'data' package to set itself up....

How hard could it be to combine all 3 driver packages into one? It would go a long way toward restoring the reputation that Epson have only got themselves to blame for damaging in the first place.

The situation is probably like it is because Epson have always sold a huge range of standalone scanners.

(*shrug*)


Mike.

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Old 01-10-2018, 01:54 AM   #13
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I have linked the correct file. Use that link. Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu so it does not support rpm Packages directly. The linked archive from me includes a shell script that downloads automatically the right .deb files and installs them. It includes printer and scanner driver.
Thanks for all your information, which will help when I eventually buy a new PC. I think I actually used the install process you outlined, but with rpm. I presume I would now uninstall the Brother printer driver and carry out your process.

But since my printer is working fine, need I do more?
 
Old 01-10-2018, 03:48 AM   #14
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Thanks for all your information, which will help when I eventually buy a new PC. I think I actually used the install process you outlined, but with rpm. I presume I would now uninstall the Brother printer driver and carry out your process.

But since my printer is working fine, need I do more?
If it's working fine, why break it?

Open terminal and type: lsusb

It will give information about your USB printer or devices.

Check out this link for more info: https://wiki.debian.org/HowToIdentifyADevice/USB
 
  


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