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Old 11-20-2006, 06:50 PM   #1
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Which Version is Good For Dual Booting With Windows?


I know there's probably some site where I can find a list of hypothetical dual boots for all windows past present and future. Unfortunatly that site doesn't exist for me, and would probably confuse me utterly. In addition to the subject question, I would also appreciate it if you could tell me wether or not I will kill all my files by installing Linux, and if there's a version thats easier to get running with XP. Thank you

~Calmrod

P.S. Would dual booting slow my computer down or have other adverse side affects?

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Old 11-20-2006, 07:23 PM   #2
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as far as i know, any linux distro can dual boot with xp. some may make it easier to set up, but any one can do it.

as far as performance, i just started dual booting puppy linux and xp, and i don't notice any drop in performance from either one, cept windows seems slower after getting a taste of puppy's blazing speed... but that's all in my head

*edit* and as to your files on windows, they'll be safe if you install linux to a separate partition. just don't format your windows partition or accidentally install linux on that one and it'll be fine

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Old 11-20-2006, 07:27 PM   #3
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What I read, Ubuntu is easy. Installing Linux is both easy and hard depending on the desire distribution. If all the drive is designated to drive C, you will have to split the drive. The smallest partition that Linux can be on is 4 GB, but more is preferred. I recommend providing another partition that is formatted as FAT32 (aka vfat in Linux) to store and use your files in either OS. I recommend do this by default because it saves your files from Windows and you can later format the C drive and re-install Windows with out files being effected. Before installing Linux, backup your data. This just a precaution if you think you did something wrong. In the BIOS, select fail-safe settings and double check all BIOS settings. Make sure hard drives that are going to boot into Linux is set as LBA and IRQ is set to BIOS instead of OS. Both APM and ACPI can be enabled but use the lowest version if possible. Use wired PS/2 inputs for the best reliable and stable operation while using Linux. Wireless keyboards and mouse has problems in Linux but over time can squeeze out the problems.

You might have heard or read about WINE (WINE is not an Emulator). This project emulates Windows API, so you can run Windows applications in Linux. IMHO, the latest version of WINE gets harder to configure than previous version and there is no way of using a text editor to configure it like the older versions. If you want to run Windows programs, I suggest using VMware or stick with dual-booting.
 
Old 11-20-2006, 07:34 PM   #4
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I'm sorry, I'm a complete newbie. I haven't much of a clue what you said. I know it has some valuable nuget of information, yet I'm incapable of comprehending it. Could you direct me to a site which has information on how to do that (partitioning and what-not) or setting all those things you said to set (like LBA and IRQ and the other ones)? Sorry to trouble you,

~Calmrod

P.S. I am downloading puppy! Yet... I haven't any clue what to do with it... o.o.

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Old 11-20-2006, 08:06 PM   #5
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A tons of How-Tos are available around, a quick search on google with dual+boot+linux can give good deal of information.
 
Old 11-20-2006, 08:55 PM   #6
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Ok, I have the things I need to get a 'live CD' (Puppy ISO and third party burner) now how do I partition my hard drive... It doesn't sound like something that's easy... part of the problem is I haven't a clue where to start.

~Calmrod

P.S. Nvm... does it have to be a DVD R to record the ISO? Is there any way other than using a live disk to get linux to dual boot with windows?

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Old 11-20-2006, 09:08 PM   #7
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Ok, I have the things I need to get a 'live CD' (Puppy ISO and third party burner) now how do I partition my hard drive... It doesn't sound like something that's easy... part of the problem is I haven't a clue where to start.

~Calmrod

P.S. Nvm... does it have to be a DVD R to use the ISO?
no just a CD-R

and you can partition in puppy live. there's a tool called G-parted on there. there's also fdisk if you're familiar with that.
 
Old 11-20-2006, 09:20 PM   #8
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So I can partition whilst installing Puppy? What partitions will I need? Thank you, as always,


~Calmrod


P.S. I have a live CD of puppy what should I do now?

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Old 11-20-2006, 09:47 PM   #9
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So I can partition whilst installing Puppy? What partitions will I need? Thank you, as always,


~Calmrod


P.S. I have a live CD of puppy what should I do now?
while in windows, put the cd in your drive and turn off your computer and turn it on again

you'll need to have partitioned it before you start the install. when i did it, i divided my hdd into two equal sized partitions, and formatted the linux one with an ext2 file system. and it worked perfectly.
 
Old 11-20-2006, 09:50 PM   #10
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So I can partition whilst installing Puppy? What partitions will I need? Thank you, as always,


~Calmrod


P.S. I have a live CD of puppy what should I do now?
If you have a Live CD of puppy, restart your computer with the CD/DVD in the drive. IF you burned the ISO correctly, and your PC is set to boot from the CDRom first(this may require a change in your BIOS), then when you're PC restarts, you'll be in Puppy Linux, running off the CD/DVD.

My understanding of puppy is minimal, but I believe it is basically the OS, and thats about it, not much software is included with it. So unless you're planning to download and install a lot of software(which can sometimes be problematic due to dependancies), it may not be the best choice for you, a new linux user.

For a full feature OS, I'd recommend Ubuntu...

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Old 11-20-2006, 09:53 PM   #11
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If you have a Live CD of puppy, restart your computer with the CD/DVD in the drive. IF you burned the ISO correctly, and your PC is set to boot from the CDRom first(this may require a change in your BIOS), then when you're PC restarts, you'll be in Puppy Linux, running off the CD/DVD.

My understanding of puppy is minimal, but I believe it is basically the OS, and thats about it, not much software is included with it. So unless you're planning to download and install a lot of software(which can sometimes be problematic due to dependancies), it may not be the best choice for you, a new linux user.

For a full feature OS, I'd recommend Ubuntu...

IGF
actually puppy is quite full featured. it has all the necessary programs (if you go with the latest version). it just isn't graphically heavy, and some of the programs are minimized.

it's the barebones version that's less than complete. but it's really easy to get new programs because of the package manager.

puppy is great for people who have old hardware, or just don't want to spend the whole day downloading the iso.

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Old 11-20-2006, 10:27 PM   #12
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Yes, but how do I do it with out losing my files? I scared myself to death when I restarted my compy and it began to load puppy... I want to load puppy, but as an alternative (and keep my files... that's the big thing. I definatly don't want to erase the files).
~Calmrod

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Old 11-20-2006, 10:50 PM   #13
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Yes, but how do I do it with out losing my files? I scared myself to death when I restarted my compy and it began to load puppy... I want to load puppy, but as an alternative (and keep my files... that's the big thing. I definatly don't want to erase the files).
~Calmrod
just make sure you do not install to hda1 or format hda1 (which is where your windows is installed unless there's something weird goin on) and you'll be fine. when you run off the cd there is no risk to losing your files unless you start messing with formatting your hdd and paritioning. other than that if you want to mess around you'll be fine. don't worry.
 
Old 11-20-2006, 10:54 PM   #14
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So if I just use the disk it shouldn't erase anything? Will I need to use the CD every time or can I get it on the hard drive? How will I "choose" which OS to use? Will I need to get a boot manager? If so what free ones would you recommend? (Sorry for the questions but I like to be informed ). Thank you,

~Calmrod

P.S. If it helps I'm trying to use "Puppy Pro" http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppyPro

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Old 11-20-2006, 11:23 PM   #15
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So if I just use the disk it shouldn't erase anything? Will I need to use the CD every time or can I get it on the hard drive? How will I "choose" which OS to use? Will I need to get a boot manager? If so what free ones would you recommend? (Sorry for the questions but I like to be informed ). Thank you,

~Calmrod

P.S. If it helps I'm trying to use "Puppy Pro" http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppyPro
you can put it on your hdd separate from windows. you must create a partition. hopefully you have a few gigs of space free on your hdd. there should be a program in puppy that will let you do this. go to control panel in the menu and there should be a program called gparted there. DO NOT format your original partition (the one with windows on it, should be hda1). format the new partition you make as an ext2 file system. then you can install puppy on it

the installer will set up a program called GRUB (put it in the MBR when you do the install, you'll see the option when it comes up) for you that will allow you to chose which OS you want to use when you start up your computer.

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