Which distros has wayland by defauult

SVinyard · 04-28-2017, 07:08 PM

Looking to try the wayland window manager but I don't know what distro has it installed by default. Thanks

frankbell · 04-28-2017, 07:14 PM

Right now, I think only Fedora offers it.

SVinyard · 04-28-2017, 07:21 PM

That was a fast reply

I give it a look. Thanks Frank

syg00 · 04-28-2017, 08:36 PM

And also has the option to drop back to X if you feel the need. One imagines they will do away with that option in the not too distant future.

frankbell · 04-28-2017, 08:47 PM

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That was a fast reply

You are welcome, but it was just the luck of the draw. I'd just signed on, yours was one of the first posts I saw, and I'd heard about Fedora and Wayland on a podcast.

SVinyard · 04-29-2017, 12:11 AM

I have one more question concerning wayland if you know the answer.

If fedora is the only distro using it why is that? Is wayland production ready or is it not that great that other distros avoid it. Thanks

syg00 · 04-29-2017, 12:40 AM

I can't claim to know, but Fedora has always been a development environment - somebody has to be first. When Redhat feels it is "production ready" it will move to RHEL.
Wayland has been available for several releases - I tried it a couple of releases ago, but reversed it back out. Can't remember why. There are still programs that issue specific X11 calls that don't work in wayland - redshift for example.

notKlaatu · 04-29-2017, 02:04 AM

The default install of Fedora 25 uses Wayland (the KDE spin does not).

It's not in every other distro because Fedora prides itself on being 'first' to new features.

Whether you want to adopt Wayland is up to you. Be aware that it's new technology.

ondoho · 04-29-2017, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SVinyard

I have one more question concerning wayland if you know the answer.

If fedora is the only distro using it why is that? Is wayland production ready or is it not that great that other distros avoid it. Thanks

i think your phrasing "by default" is problematic.

i'm sure quite a few more distros have full (or as full as it can be at this point) wayland support.

i whipped up 2 distrowatch searches:

The following distributions include wayland version similar to 1x in the latest release

and

The following distributions include wayland version greater or equal to 1.13.0 in the latest release

DavidMcCann · 04-29-2017, 11:15 AM

You can find out more here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland...erver_protocol)
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wayland
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wayland

For GUIs, there's full support in Gnome, KDE, and Enlightenment.

For graphics cards, Wayland has been supported by open-source drivers for about five years, but the proprietary drivers are still only available for X.

frankbell · 04-29-2017, 09:39 PM

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If fedora is the only distro using it why is that? Is wayland production ready or is it not that great that other distros avoid it.

I must say that, when I posted my first response, I did carefully preface it with an "I think."

In any event, Wayland is still very new and you can expect that only distros that like being bleeding edge are likely to offer it until it's tested and proven over several years. Abandoning X, which is tested and proven, albeit admittedly crusty, will be seen as a huge step by many in the Linux community.