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Old 10-22-2005, 06:53 PM   #16
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Just to be clear, are you saying that there are no patent licensing issues in the UK for:
- .mp3
- .mov
- encrypted dvd's

On the take-up, I don't know how specific your knowledge is in this matter but if you do know of significant UK government systems using linux I'd be interested to learn what they are, especially if they include desktop computing.

Old 10-22-2005, 11:36 PM   #17
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I am speaking of the tools that you use on linux. Not violating patents as they are not being marketed for profit neither are they for use in a commercial endeavor. Instead of telling you what is going on in your country read it for yourself.

EU Concerning Software Patents:

Major Computer Systems:
"The Open Source Consortium, funded by the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister, will provide the councilís funding, running into hundreds of thousands of pounds, said Evans.",00.htm
"A UK government-funded initiative aims to accelerate the use of open source software within the public sector, through various activities including the creation of a government-specific code repository and a directory of open source providers."

"Various organisations are involved in the Open Source Academy including Bristol, Cheshire, Birmingham and Shepway Council, the National Computing Centre, the University of Kent, the Institute of IT Training, OpenForum Europe, the Open Source Consortium and Socitm ó the professional association for public sector IT managers.";_ylt=ApE0eef2Q...384t-10000004c
"RWE Innogy, a power company in the United Kingdom, has begun moving systems that control its coal-fired power plants to Linux."
Linux share grows in UK SME sector

Although Not UK related:
Some surprising companies that use linux.,00.htm
"PlayStation 3 may run on Linux"

Other companies offering linux products: Palm (as in Palm Pilot), Hewlet Packard, Compaq and Wal-Mart. To name a few in a huge list.

Pretty clear to me that the UK Government as well as other huge organizations fund a lot of Linux Intiatives.

As I said in the beginning. The crux is money. Who gets it? Linux is taking money from Microsoft, Macromedia, SCO, etc. but not keeping it for themselves. Bottom line, the companies pushing against Linux are trying to convince you that the idea of being motivated by something other than greed is bad. Whats wrong with "love thy neighbor as thy self"?

Good Bye.

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Old 10-23-2005, 06:11 AM   #18
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Thanks usaf_sp.

If anyone has news of easy ways for end users to get licensed codecs for .mov .mp3 .wma. dvd etc for linux media players please post here.

Old 12-02-2005, 07:51 AM   #19
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Today there are a lot of articles about piracy, 'cause this kind of crime is increasing...What do you think is the most humane way in the fight with it
Old 12-02-2005, 11:33 AM   #20
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The wierdest rumor is that some of M$'s programmers use linux and teh developement suites that come with them for writing major thins like windowz itself!
thease rumors are unconfiormed but possable
Old 12-13-2005, 09:28 PM   #21
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There is no humane way to deal with it (this implies active enforcement), as a person's computer is their own property.

Adapt and overcome should be the business model.

For software you can stop piracy with the following combination:

1. Product Keys that can be periodically checked online (like the Windows Advantage program)


2. Using SafeDisc or a derivitave of the Sony Arcos protection on the actual CD.

For Music and Movies:

If people want to download music and movies, they will pay for them by going to a dedicated server run by the company that is selling them. I know that I would do that rather than deal with P2Ps. The problem is that the companies are getting too greedy and trying to squeeze every dime that they can out of people. As far as keeping their codecs out of the hands of Linux, well that is just silly. These companies are run by old greedy bean counters that have no immagination. If they don't realize that technology is about change (not the money type) then they deserve to go broke.

Going after the pirate is like chasing the wind.


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