I am positive this has been covered but I am about as new as they get and cannot seem to find this topic in any thread. I have installed FC3 and now downloaded Wine and Opera RPM's and right clicked and intalled them using "Install Packages" all went well.. I think?

Now I cannot find the progams to use I have searched high and low the are not in the applications menu (the start menu in WinBlows) I have thought I did not install them and re tried to install them but i get the package opera is already installed.... WHERE IS IT?

Now i have great fear in being able to run wine as I cannot even find it....

Thanks in advance
Ben

your fear is not unfounded. it'll take you some time to get used to how things work in linux as opposed to the windows way of doing things.

try "which wine"

though i never touch the stuff, i'm not sure on the command, just guessing with "wine".

if that don't work, try "whereis wine"

Check out locate, or slocate:

If that doesn't find it, you might need to run updatedb (I have to do it as root) for it to return the current file locations.
That should get you started.

Go with secesh's suggestion.
It returns one file, instead of about 50+ for locate

more on my suggestion vs locate (though this might be greek to you now, here's the scoop):

which searches through your $PATH to find things, whereis looks through "standard linux places" to find things, and locate looks prettymuch everywhere: "locate searches a database for all pathnames which match the specified pattern. The database is recomputed periodically, and contains the path-names of all files which are publicly accessible."

so, while which/whereis would return only something like: /usr/bin/wine, locate would return that, as well as every file under /etc/wine/ (that is if wine has a directory under /etc -- more than just onf conf file... like i said, i never tough the stuff, myself) ...but you get the point, i hope...

For the database to be updated after an installation it's advised to run updatedb before running locate

Some good advise if you're a Linux newbie, learn the directory structures and what eac one contains for example

/etc - stores config files
/var - store logs and spools
/sbin - stores executables for [rograms

And so forth.

new content, i retract my statement

sound advice, though it should be noted that sbin is for root while bin is for users

look here for more:
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HighQualit...HOWTO/fhs.html

Thanks you all this was most helpful, now how do I put the programs into the applications menu (the start menu in WinBlows)

THis forum is outstanding! I hope to get responces this fast at others but it is only a hope.

Ben

Which window manager are you using?

-in the future, you might try using the command line:

cd to the directory where the rpm file is,
type "rpm -ivv {your_file}.rpm"
this tells the rpm program i for install and vv for "very verbose".
if it scrolls by too fast, just type "> install_log" after the rpm command to make it save everything.

You'll see the names of files and directories involved in the installation scroll by, and also if there were any problems. Ironic how every other Linux program has to be gagged and filtered to get it to only put out this much data, but the package installer, the one program that you *want* to be talkitive, has to be put in "very verbose" mode just to get it to confess any information at all!