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Old 08-23-2011, 03:01 PM   #16
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well it crashed and now the pc will not even boot. I am begining to think that linux does not want me to use it.
Of course it wants you to use it! Dont give up, please!

Okay, to quote someone "here's an easy one"

- Get MacPup, probably the best thing to start with for you
- Burn the CD, you know kow
- Insert the CD in the PC where Linux has to be installed (not your main system - the hard drive will be erased) and (re)start that PC
- At the brown-ish splash, just hit Enter
- After all the text, you'll see five dancing dots, dont worry...
- You end up on a dark-blue desktop.
- There will be a setup screen, enter the values you need (keys, mouse, screen) hit "OK"
- You'll be able to test the keyboard
- The thing will want to restart the X-server, allow that
- The dancing dots, again...
- Click on the (gothic) "M" and navigate until you see "Setup" (Applications-Setup)
- Choose "Puppy Universal Installer"
- Choose where to install ("internal IDE SATA drive" I guess)
- You'll be presented with a (list of) drive(s), select your hard drive (SDA/HDA, depends)
- Prep the hard drive, to do that, hit the grey-ish button, GParted will come up
- You'll see a "strip", that's the hard drive. Let's clean up first
- Click on that strip, then the trash can to delete the whole thing (unless there's still data you need)
- Hit "apply" and confirm
- Repeat that until you have one clean grey strip
- Click in the (now) grey strip and the "new" button
- Enter a name for the drive and leave the rest as is...
- Click "Add" and "Apply", again, confirm
- The system will report success, close this frame too...
- Right-click in the (now) white strip and then select "manage flags"
- Select "boot" and close
- Before you close GParted, note the name that was given, look for something like "/dev/sda1"...or the like, write this down...
- In the menu, select "GParted" then "Quit"
- Re-select the harddisk, there could be more than one (here it was), dont worry, they're both the same
- You're back in the installer screen
- Hit the red-ish button next to "install to sda1"
- Confirm at the next screen
- The next screen presents two buttons (and quite some text), I'd select "Full" for a complete install
- Let MacPup install, this may take a while...
- MacPup should come back with two things: an "it all went well..." (phew) message and some text in a notepad...
- Just ingore this text for now...
- Next, we'll make sure the thing boots up next time
- Hit the Gothic M again, then Applications and System
- Select the yellow-ish icon : "Grub bootloader config"
- Select "Simple", hit "OK"
- Keep the suggested choice, this is about the bootmenu, anyway
- Hit ok...
- Remember what you wrote down? Fill out the box with that, hit "OK"
- You'll be given three choices of where to put the GRUB (the menu, that is), choose the third "MBR" - okay, it says that's not safe, but ... it is, trust me
- One last (long) message saying that all went well...
- There's still some text open, close that, we dont need that anymore, dont save it...
- Noticed the buttons at the bottom? Hit the "Power" button (circle with a vertical line)
- In the next frame, select "Reboot"
- The (very) last text-only screen invites you to save settings, hit the right arrow (keyboard) until the "Do Not Save" button is selected, hit Enter
- Notice that the system does not eject the CD rom, you need to do that
- In the next screen (the GRUB) select the first option "Linux (on /dev/sda1)" and hit Enter
- You'll see lots of text, then the dancing dots, and...the setup screen again. That's normal, because now, you'll set up the final system, for a last time.
- Fill out, confirm, allow X to restart
- Welcome to Linux!

Let me know where "the eagle hits the moon"

Thor

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Old 08-23-2011, 03:20 PM   #17
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thank you Thor what a great answer - tomorrow I will follow your instructions to the letter -
 
Old 08-23-2011, 03:30 PM   #18
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You're welcome!

Glad I could help!

Edit : I did not put any info on networking in there, MacPup/Puppy is an expert in setting itself up. But, if need be, I'd gladly help out there too...

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Old 08-24-2011, 06:24 AM   #19
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Thor - I have got as far as "- Hit the red-ish button next to "install to sda1"
- Confirm at the next screen
- The next screen presents two buttons (and quite some text), I'd select "Full" for a complete install"
I select full but I do not get the 2 buttons you say but am asked where the files are "/macpup_525sfs" these are not on the cd and I cannot find them on the menu that is offered. So where are they?
 
Old 08-24-2011, 11:35 AM   #20
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Okay,

Let's gloss over the check list again:
- inserted CD rom (check)
- reboot PC (check)
- after completion of ythe startup, complete the preferences (check)
- prep/partition the hard drive (check)
- select the install button (check)
- the next screen (in my version 5.2)just confirms what you choose
...checking...

I think you have a different version, try it with the version I've got here...at least the screen should (in theory) be the same...

Edit : I found something similar...on a USB stick, after I installed MacPup on that stick...this puzzles me. It looks as if you've installed MacPup already, and try to use that as install medium...

Hmm...

Do you do chat? Maybe that's the better option, then I'll "click along" with you...

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Old 08-24-2011, 11:56 AM   #21
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Thanks Thor downloading now
 
Old 08-24-2011, 12:13 PM   #22
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Okay...still with you

By the way, if you'd want to run a chat, I can wait on freenode channel #puppylinux as t01dev...

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Old 08-24-2011, 01:51 PM   #23
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thanks Thor success I now have puppy linux installed. A small problem it failed to load the network card driver so no internet connection. I would love to chat but do not know what the freenode channel is or how to connect.
 
Old 08-24-2011, 02:13 PM   #24
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Talking

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay...networking...

I'll fire up the puppy...

- The buttons, there's one tophat-with-magic-wand, click it
- Next "Connect to internet or intranet"
- "connect to internet wired ot wireless"...click that
- try the "network wizard"
- can you see an interface? It's (mostly) called "eth0"
- you can "test the interface"...
- If there's success, select "static IP address"
- In the next screen, you'll need to fill out the DNS addresses your provider uses, as well as your private IP address and gateway.
- after successfull setting, of course you'll...save the settings

By the way, I may need to know what the setup is...in response

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I would love to chat but do not know what the freenode channel is or how to connect.
If you have a chat program (I use Xchat...), you'd need to find the server called "Freenode", on that server, there's a channel (get the channel list if need be) called #puppylinux ...

Let's see where the thing rolls with the network

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Old 08-24-2011, 02:23 PM   #25
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the system cannot find the network and there is no module name that I recognize to load. How do you look at a usb key I have plugged one in with a windows driver on it but do not know how to look at it? The only chat on my main pc is skype.
 
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I have now found how to mount a usb drive but it did not have a network driver on it that was acceptable to puppy
 
Old 08-24-2011, 02:33 PM   #27
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How do you look at a usb key
Easy...one of the buttons in the toolbar below is a ... USB key, hit it, after inserting the key. Puppy will probe the drives available and present them in tabbed panes. Select the USB key and click on "Mount" (keep the thing inserted, though).
To unplug, select the same window, click the same button...but now it says "UNmount"...wait until all is okay (key stops blinking...)

By the way, you may find the name of the network card, but a windows driver will NOT work...you'" on Linux now...

What does the network wizard report as make?
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I have now found how to mount a usb drive but it did not have a network driver on it that was acceptable to puppy
Weird...Puppy is an artist is detecting this kinda stuff...

Okay, let's open a console (Button with a black screen on it) and enter:

Quote:
ifconfig -a
What does it say? Two blocks of info?

more edit

Wired? Wireless?

in the console, what does

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ping 127.0.0.1
...say?

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Old 08-24-2011, 02:41 PM   #28
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it does not give any idea of network adaptor which is built into the winfast/foxcon motherboard.
 
Old 08-24-2011, 02:52 PM   #29
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...these things are made by someone...hmm...think-think...

okay "da capo", as it says...

what do you see when you open the network wizard?

To open this follow

The button with the top hat, then "connec to to internet or intranet", then "internet by wired or wireless lan", then (finally) "network wizard" (left-top button)

This is the network wizard, there is a little table, it says something like "eth0 - ethernet- ..."

The make should be in there...

Let's see this tru first
 
Old 08-24-2011, 02:58 PM   #30
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puppy cnnot see any active network interfaces - it should have been set up automatically but it has not - the given chance to load manually but the only modules shown are either pci or usb and this is built into the mobo. I have tried the auto probe but it does not seem to find one to do the job
 
  


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