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web browsers slow, little memory free, pleae review output from top
I'm trying to get to the bottom of why firefox, mozilla, konqueror, and epiphany are ALL loading webpages rather slowly. For instance, I can hit the same link on both my Mandrake 10 box running firefox (r any of the others) and at the same time click the link on my windows box running firefox. Well, the windows box returns the page in all of 6 to 7 seconds, while the Mandrake box takes roughly 40 to 50 seconds. It is not loading bit sof the page at a time or anything, it just takes that long until the page appears at all. So, I thought I'd try to find out what services I have running, and then hopefully decide which I do not need and how to stop them from starting at boot again. Kinda flying blind in my venture, but I noticed many many instances of kdeinit from the "top" command, and of my 512M of RAM I usually have 480-500M of it being used at any given time. Here is the top portion from "top"... what's with all the kdeinit and httpd2 entries? I'm running a webserver, but is it normal to have that many instances?
PLEASE ADVISE!!!!!!! top - 18:12:05 up 9:14, 3 users, load average: 0.09, 0.16, 0.13 Tasks: 110 total, 1 running, 109 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 3.0% us, 0.7% sy, 0.0% ni, 96.0% id, 0.0% wa, 0.3% hi, 0.0% si Mem: 515632k total, 471908k used, 43724k free, 34788k buffers Swap: 511520k total, 32k used, 511488k free, 257504k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 6096 jeff 15 0 92328 29m 27m S 0.0 5.9 0:14.22 firefox-bin 1920 root 15 0 96200 27m 75m S 1.3 5.4 7:26.17 X 3052 jeff 16 0 28088 25m 4308 S 0.0 5.0 0:01.52 gconfd-2 4335 jeff 15 0 39680 25m 35m S 0.0 5.0 0:07.44 kdeinit 4369 jeff 15 0 97252 25m 25m S 0.0 5.0 0:06.85 evolution 4370 jeff 15 0 36260 24m 30m S 0.0 5.0 0:09.55 kdeinit 4338 jeff 15 0 40332 23m 36m S 0.3 4.7 0:08.44 kdeinit 4375 jeff 16 0 34912 23m 30m S 0.0 4.7 0:00.99 kdeinit 4329 jeff 15 0 37964 20m 34m S 0.0 4.1 0:01.06 kdeinit 4374 jeff 15 0 34068 20m 30m S 0.3 4.0 0:02.55 kdeinit 4371 jeff 15 0 33884 19m 30m S 1.0 3.9 0:00.81 kdeinit 4383 jeff 16 0 33508 19m 30m S 0.0 3.9 0:01.20 korgac 4333 jeff 15 0 31932 18m 28m S 0.0 3.7 0:02.92 kdeinit 4314 jeff 15 0 33076 18m 29m S 0.0 3.7 0:01.81 kdeinit 4744 jeff 16 0 32124 18m 28m S 0.0 3.7 0:00.19 kdeinit 4365 jeff 15 0 31256 17m 28m S 0.0 3.5 0:00.91 kdeinit 4358 jeff 16 0 30868 16m 27m S 0.0 3.3 0:01.54 kweatherservice 4332 jeff 16 0 30916 16m 27m S 0.0 3.3 0:00.17 kdeinit 4327 jeff 16 0 30616 16m 27m S 0.0 3.2 0:00.16 kdeinit 4311 jeff 16 0 30496 15m 28m S 0.0 3.1 0:00.12 kdeinit 6156 jeff 16 0 30208 14m 28m S 0.0 3.0 0:00.02 kdeinit 4950 jeff 16 0 29964 14m 28m S 0.0 2.9 0:00.01 kdeinit 4309 jeff 16 0 28688 13m 27m S 0.0 2.8 0:00.31 kdeinit 4306 jeff 17 0 28784 13m 27m S 0.0 2.7 0:00.17 kdeinit 5957 jeff 16 0 21748 10m 20m S 0.0 2.1 0:00.00 kdesud 2706 apache 16 0 11792 8460 8600 S 0.0 1.6 0:00.30 httpd2 3185 apache 15 0 11780 8448 8600 S 0.0 1.6 0:00.31 httpd2 3190 apache 16 0 11360 7784 8600 S 0.0 1.5 0:00.33 httpd2 2703 apache 16 0 11360 7780 8600 S 0.0 1.5 0:00.29 httpd2 2704 apache 15 0 11360 7776 8600 S 0.0 1.5 0:00.28 httpd2 2702 apache 15 0 11360 7772 8600 S 0.0 1.5 0:00.26 httpd2 2705 apache 15 0 11360 7756 8600 S 0.0 1.5 0:00.24 httpd2 3430 apache 16 0 11360 7756 8600 S 0.0 1.5 0:00.19 httpd2 4050 apache 16 0 11360 7740 8600 S 0.0 1.5 0:00.14 httpd2 4368 jeff 16 0 22176 7716 16m S 0.0 1.5 0:00.40 evolution-alarm 6146 apache 16 0 11360 7584 8600 S 0.0 1.5 0:00.00 httpd2 2694 root 16 0 11360 7544 8600 S 0.0 1.5 0:00.24 httpd2 4325 jeff 15 0 12436 7332 11m S 0.0 1.4 0:00.79 artsd 3140 jeff 16 0 25180 6728 20m S 0.0 1.3 0:00.22 evolution-womba 4285 jeff 16 0 14492 6148 13m S 0.0 1.2 0:05.66 magicdev 1772 xfs 16 0 5348 3800 2512 S 0.0 0.7 0:00.09 xfs 2516 root 16 0 8276 3064 6652 S 0.0 0.6 0:00.00 smbd 3059 jeff 16 0 5012 2656 4528 S 0.0 0.5 0:00.13 bonobo-activati 2077 root 16 0 5504 2340 3552 S 0.0 0.5 0:00.14 cupsd 5549 jeff 15 0 6436 2240 5844 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.02 sshd 2701 root 17 0 4024 2200 3012 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.02 advxsplitlogfil 2448 nobody 16 0 4516 2180 3808 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.00 proftpd 4315 jeff 16 0 3496 2012 2648 S 0.0 0.4 0:07.81 fam 2526 root 16 0 6140 2008 5000 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.14 nmbd 5547 root 16 0 6304 1984 5844 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.01 sshd 1807 root 15 0 5996 1900 4724 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.00 mount.smbfs 4130 root 18 0 3600 1700 3148 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.03 mdkkdm 4384 jeff 15 0 2752 1600 2344 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.04 bash 4872 root 15 0 2752 1600 2344 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.07 bash All comments and suggestions appreciated!!!! |
Until someone smarter comes along - this sounds rather like a DNS resolution issue. Have you checked how those names are resolved?
For instance, in Slack if I configure the network during the install, it requires me to enter a domain name, but my ISP doesn't use this. So whatever I enter is put into the /etc/resolv.conf file as a domain to search, before the actual nameserver(s). If that search isn't the proper domain, it's going to cause a delay while your browser searches before it goes to the nameserver. I only post this because I had the same issue until I removed that domain name, and now that I only have the 2 proper nameserver ip addresses, it begins to load immediately. |
Thanks for replying.
No good. I did in fact have an entry in there, and removed it, leaving only the nameserver entries. They are my loopback address first, then two others that I believe to be correct, I think they're 207.69.188.185 and .186 Does this sound correct? Anything other ideas? |
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bash-2.05b$ whois 207.69.188.185If you got a Windoze box running you can issue C:\> ipconfig /all and that will show your nameservers. Sorry I don't know how to do it from *nix... |
Okay, got it fixed. I added the following to /etc/resolv.conf:
domainserver 192.168.1.1 and everything is as it should be!! Guess I needed to set my router to be my domainserver... Thanks for the help!!!!! |
ive got the same problem with a stand alone box. I am a newbie and would have to be taken step by step. How do I fix mine
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Well, I may or may not have fixed mine, it turns out. Still trying to decide. SOme of the sites are faster now, but others are still rather slow. For instance, fox news just took 29 seconds to load on the linux box, 8 seconds on the win box. Perhaps it's just foxnews.com, as ti does have lots of flash ads and java crap to load. I don't know, some of you kind people shuold go there and tell me how quickly yours loads.
One thing I noticed, no matter how I try to remove the loopback address from my /etc/resolv.conf, if I delete it or comment it out, it gets re-written to it as soon as I restart my services. Why? Another thing, I was mistaken in what I entered into /etc/resolv.conf. Rather than... domainserver 192.168.1.1 it was domain 192.168.1.1 Now, to help robby737 get this far... Please do the following. Open a terminal and change to root if you can. If you don't know how to do this, you just type "su" and then hit enter, and then enter the root password when prompted and hit enter... Perform the following: # vi /etc/resolv.conf Move your cursor (with the arrow keys) to the line that says "nameserver 127.0.0.1" and hit the "d" key twice to delete the line. Now, hit the "i" key to begin insert mode, hit enter to create a new line, up arrow to get cursor to this new line, and typr the following... domain 192.168.1.1 Now, this only applies if the LAN IP of your router (assuming you have a router) is 192.168.1.1. Many are, but certainly not all. Lets try this (only way I can figure out how) to get your info. Open a new terminal and type: # ifconfig -a and look for the lines that resemble this: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:2C:02:4E:1D inet addr:192.168.1.101 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::250:2cff:fe02:4e1d/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:71956 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:73023 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:43869027 (41.8 Mb) TX bytes:18851310 (17.9 Mb) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xe800 In the second line of that, you see the "inet addr:192.168.1.101." That is the ip assigned by my router. YOur routers ip will be the first three sets of numbers, with the final set being 1. Just as my ip is 192.168.1.101, router 192.168.1.1...get it? There are of course exceptions to this rule, but you'll just have to let us know if you're one of them. Now that youve got your routers ip, replace the numbers after "domain" that you just added to /etc/resolv.conf in the other terminal. Once you've got that line made, hit the esc key, then type a colon (:) and wq, like this :wq and hit enter. This writes the file and quits the editor. now, as root, type service -R and hit enter. If you get command not found, type /sbin/service -R this will restart all of your services. Might want to watch this process, to see if any fail to start. Now see if your internet is better. PLEASE let us know if this worked for you. I'm still skeptical as to whether or not mine is better or not...it may just be that I"m impossible to satisfy... Thanks for helping folks, let me know if you try getting to foxnews.com and how quick it is/isnt Thanks |
Thank you very much. I will try this tonight when I get home and will let you know how it turned out
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Oh yeah, dumb question to follow, do I type the "#" at the beginning as shown and what does it mean
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no, the # just means that you are root when entering the commands. You do not type it...
Good luck, |
Thanks again. I will update tommorrow
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I have noticed that resolving hosts on mdk10 has been slow for me too. I will give this a shot when i get home and post the results.
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Okay, after re-reading the reply from Chinaman, I pulled my head out of my rear and got this right.
The very first line in my /etc/resolv.conf was: search earthlink.net local Well, I changed this to read: search 207.69.188.185 and foxnews, as well as all other sites, comes up in under 8 seconds. That is the IP of earthlink's nameserver, and was the first in the list of nameservers in this file, but adding it to the search line seems to have fixed things. Good luck everybody!!!! |
Might I add that in your post describing how to edit the file you suggest the editor vi, which to me is hard for a newbie. Maybe something like kedit, gedit, pico, or nano will be easier for newbies to start with. If vi gives you problems, just insert one of those where you previously had vi and see which you like better.
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Ok I did what you said and I have a fealing I dont have a router set up. With your precise instructions vi seamed ok to use. when I did # vi /etc/resolv.conf there was no 127.0.0.1 there was 2 lines of nameserver 65.38.xxx.x then 16 lines of #nameserver 65.38.xxx.x #temp entry then 2 lines similar to the top 2 lines.
With # ifconfig -a I got the following: link encap: local loopback (on fisrt line) inet add: 127.0.0.0 mask 255.0.0.0 (on second line) I dont think I have the dial up set up right. When in the configuration for the internet connection where it asks for dial up IP parameters and has 2 selections for auto and manual I put it in auto because I dont know what it is. Also there is another window for gateway I also selected auto not manual here as well becuase I dont know what it is. I do have the dns server addresses, username and passwords in there thats pretty easy. There is a check box in the setup that says set host name from IP. I dont know what to do with that either. Thanks for all the help |
Oh boy, I have no idea how to set it up if you're using dial-up and not high-speed. I would at least check the box that says set host name from IP, but after that I don't know how to help you. I don't use dial-up, and don't have a phone jack nearby, so I can't even experiment to try to get you through this. Sorry.
Perhaps somebody in the know will chime in here and help, otherwise you should do some LQ searches for stuff like "dial-up nameserver" or "dial-up domain" or whatever else you can come up with to refine your search. Good luck... |
Thanks maybe someone will know
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Just so everyone knows, i did not do this last night. My internet was working fine when i got home (even fox news loaded fast). may have been an ISP problem in my case
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Mine has been doing from the beginning ( a week now). Cant anyone help.
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OK maybe this will help someone find an answer. I have recently heard the term "handshaking". This is what I think my computer is doing. Continually handshaking. When I tried to explain it with the noise I hear I didnt know the term.
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robby737,
Just so I understand correctly, You configured with auto as in this thread? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=198752 Did that help? Did edit /etc/resolv.conf for a dial-up connection to your ISP? What nameservers did you enter there? Please post the whole file and the name of your ISP. Did you perform any more steps or make any other changes? |
Ok, I've done this and it definately helped, but the problem now, is that whenever I restart my comp the resolv.conf gets rewritten to what it was before.
How can I prevent this from happening or at least make it rewrite the correct data into my resolv.conf? Thank you. |
I did set up the auto's as stated in the other string and I did edit resolv.conf to read nameserver:204.178.xxx.x which is my DNS address for my ISP and it did not help. There is one more thing I want to try and will let you know how it goes. It will be a couple of days though
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If its any help the only thing that is in resolv.conf is:
nameserver:204.178.185.5 nameserver:204.178.185.105 Should it have the domain name of my server as well |
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bash-2.05b$ cat /etc/resolv.confyou need in /etc/resolv.conf afaik. All a nameserver does is translate domain names such as www.linuxquestions.org into an IP address such as 64.179.4.149 which makes it easier for all of us to access websites, rather than typing in the IP address each time. Sort of like using your cell phone's address book to call Roby rather than dialing (123) 456-7890 or whatever's his actual phone number. A long time ago I used the nameservers for Verizon, and they were not my ISP. Looking at your entries there is a colon between nameserver and the actual IP. Did you type it that way or did Mandrake do it like this? If that wasn't done by Mandrake, but you did if for some reason, then take them out. Those 2 addresses are UUNET Technologies, Inc. Is that your ISP? If you run a dual-boot system, in WinDOHS at a DOS prompt issue C:\> ipconfig -all to get the correct IP addresses of your ISP. You can use other ones, but your ISP is the first server you hit when the data leaves your box, so wouldn't you want to use that one? I know somebody else posted that they put their router's address in there, but their router can't translate domain names into IP addresses. Notice he later found out that didn't help. The only other thing you can put in there to help is search <the ISP's domain name> such as that guy put to search EarthLink. From reading your thread, I think you should read the document for setting up pppd. Don't know where to find that for Mandrake, but I think there's a tutorial on LQ. |
I may have typed the colon in I made that entry from memory, I am at work. The IP addresses are the ones given by my provider but the name doesnt sound familiar, I will look into it. I did find another post that may fix our problems. I will look for it again and post the link. It has to do with the iv4 iv6 internet usage (again from memory so may not be totally accurate but you get the idea). I am reorganizing my office at home so computer isnt together, it will be a couple of days.
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Here is the post that might fix our problems. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=195465
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Great find robby737!!
My name resolution seems to be tip-top now, after adding that to /etc/modprobe.conf. I had nothing in there regarding this, so rather than change the entry they talked about, I just had to add it. Rebooted, and all is good....for now... THANK EVERYONE for getting through this!!!! |
I know how to change a file ,,,, kind of. Am I going to have to create one? I dont know how to do that? Jeffrey am I going to have to do the same as you with mandrake 10. If so can you walk me through it from scratch (left foot forward stop right foot forward stop; That kind of thing)?
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No problem...
You won't have to create a file, as you will most certainly already have /etc/modprobe.conf You'll need to be root to edit it, so type: su hit enter, and enter the root password when prompted. Now, type gedit /etc/modprobe.conf hit enter, and you'll open the file. Add this (via copy and paste from here) to the end alias net-pf-10 ipv6 install ipv6 /bin/true if you already have a line that looks like alias net-******** or similar, remove it. Now, save the file and reboot. I don't think simply restarting all services will enable this. You should now be all set. Let us know if it solves it for you as well... Good luck! |
Does this enable ipv6 or disable it? I was told that it was a good idea to stick to ipv4 and not use ipv6 due to the additional back door that ipv6 creates. With that said I dont have a clue what it all means or the true implications.
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I suppose it would enable it. I had not heard of the backdoor you mentioned, but just in case I went ahead and changed the ipv6 to ipv4, rebooted, and it still works fine. SO go ahead with that.
THanks again! |
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