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Old 12-22-2002, 06:26 PM   #1
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Does RedHat 7.2 come with any console-based web browsers? Or do you need X? Also, what is the most common desktop manager (KDE, Genome, etc.) and where can I get it? Thanks.
 
Old 12-22-2002, 07:35 PM   #2
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you should already have links or lynx installed on your system, if ynot they will be on your distro cds.

and why on earth do you jsut want the most common desktop manager? surely you want the best? either way, redhat comes with all the main ones.
 
Old 12-22-2002, 08:08 PM   #3
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umm.. what he said. lol

yeah, lynx or links are either on your system, or can be installed from CD, most of these things should be done for you when you install, on the final screen, it will ask you whether you wish to make KDE or GNOME your default. You can also switch between them easily afterwords.
 
Old 12-22-2002, 09:49 PM   #4
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Umm...

How do I switch between KDE and GNOME?



I am now having a KDE problem... Under root, it never gets past the start screen. Under any other username, it always gives me the error cannot run program lancher through DHOP. How do I fix this?
 
Old 12-22-2002, 09:58 PM   #5
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DCOP... you can't (easily) run programs as other users in the logged in users X window.

As for switching, how do you login, via GUI login, or startx? You don't have to use KDE/Gnome, in fact I would have to disagree that KDE or Gnome are the 2 most common ones. They are just the common ones that "newbies" use, and that's simply because most of them don't realize there is another option for a while.

Anyway, yeah, it depends on how you login.

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Old 12-23-2002, 12:01 AM   #6
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Uhh What are the other options?
I know about ICE and so called Windowmaker

Others?

Be nice and let us in a the secret... we won't tell M$..hahhahah
 
Old 12-23-2002, 12:10 AM   #7
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Fluxbox, the rest is all details

Here's a good list for ya:
http://www.plig.org/xwinman/

Or 2:
http://www.linux.org/apps/all/GUI/Window_Managers.html

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Old 12-23-2002, 10:39 AM   #8
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I login to text prompt and use startx. I don't use GUI much, it is just a good fallback when I'm totally lost.
 
Old 12-23-2002, 02:59 PM   #9
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Ok, cool then it should be a semi piece of cake.

Make a file in your user's home directory called .xinitrc

Add the lines:
exec startkde
To start kde.

For Gnome I believe it's
exec gnome-session

Other's are usually just the path to their location, flux might be:
/usr/local/bin/fluxbox SO
exec /usr/local/bin/fluxbox or simply
exec fluxbox IF
/usr/local/bin is in your $PATH

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Old 12-23-2002, 07:27 PM   #10
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Thanks MasterC, KnightAbel, and acid_kewpie. Let me clarify my problem. I log in as a normal user and run startx. KDE comes up. Then I click, say, xterm or Konquer. It gives me an error like cannot start program through DCOP. If I login as root, it won't even startx. It crashes and freezes at 'restoring session'. How can I fix this?
 
Old 12-23-2002, 07:34 PM   #11
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Odd, I'd have to go with the "remove the .kde directory from your user's home directory" but that's kind of a pain if you have lots of customized works. If not, then go for that. Although I am a bit confused as to why this'd happen. Did you tinker with anything right before this started? Did you shut off any system services?

Hmmm

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Old 12-23-2002, 08:35 PM   #12
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Anyone has a soulution to staring the new netscape browser w/o going through the command line of /usr/local/netscape and then./netscape?
Would like to create a simple little short cut- or can this be done?

By the way I installed Gnomeonce more the stupid thang wants to freeze up on me at times still? IT acts kind of like IE 4? Or better Windows ME.
I am in process of trying other desktops but one failed miserably today becuase stupid gnome files where not on the computer?

Thanks
ikw38
 
Old 12-23-2002, 09:25 PM   #13
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Hi As for the netscape problems I'd say to simply symlink netscape to a directory in your PATH, let's say /usr/bin:
ln -sf /usr/local/netscape/netscape /usr/bin/netscape

Now you *should* be able to run it with just typing netscape from anywhere.

As for your gnome problem, yeah you do have required libs et al to compile Gnome. What version? Or am I wrong in assuming Gnomeonce is just a typo lacking a space? Anyway, yeah you'll need the libs required to install Gnome, which are probably listed somewhere inside the directory from where you are compiling it from. Read the README and INSTALL files, they are huge clue givers.

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Old 12-24-2002, 12:57 AM   #14
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MasterC,
Could you clarify the last command you gave me here.
When I try this it comes saying
[ikw38@Workgroup ikw38]$ -sf/usr/local/netscape/netscape /usr/bin/netscape
bash: -sf/usr/local/netscape/netscape: No such file or directory.
Did I miss something here?
This looks like of done right would be really cool.
I downloaded Opera tonight as well, problem with Opera is still the same as it was with Vendow$ no shockwave- no java so as result you miss somethings on web sites. Now if you want browser to look at accounting files --- well this is the one....
Netscape atleast offers some funtionality to seeing some of the stuff out there in cyberland.

Thanks once again for you help.
ikw38
 
Old 12-24-2002, 02:41 AM   #15
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the command is actually just ln. It's LN lowercase, then the rest:
ln -sf /usr/local/netscape/netscape /usr/bin/netscape

So you just missed the opening portion. As for java/shockwave and all it's simply plugins. You get the plugins loaded for whatever browser, and those things will start working. The common path that browsers look for is /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins but there are others as well (and I'm sure you can specify if it's not a standard location, check the preferences in opera).

Hope it works for ya

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