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XzeroX 08-13-2003 03:07 AM

Way Newbie to the point of cring..
:cry: HELP!!! ME!

I'm VERY new to linux, so new, I feel lost. (Now I know how my G/F feels). I got 2 problems. One, My network card can connect to my LAN box, but can not connect to the internet,What am I doing wrong? and Two. My CD-RW is not working won't burn. I have NO idea what I'm doing so PLEASE help me out here. Oh, and another do you adjust the rev on your's stuck on 800X600 in X windows, How do I change that? I know I'm asking alot. But,ya... you guys can e-mail me at 2 adresses for you Linux or OH! I almost forgot, How do you set linux to boot up without the cd? (I got Peanuts Linux,works great so far.)

Thanks you guys.
From the Newest :newbie:

scott_R 08-13-2003 03:25 AM

First point, you have to install linux on your hardrive to keep it from needing the cd. I don't use peanut, so I can't help you there. Second, you need to test your burner program as root, and see if it's just a permission problem, or something more serious (like the burner prog isn't set up yet). Third, your connection to the internet can be affected by multiple things, but it's likely you do not have permission to route through your LAN box. Each of these is pretty easily correctible, but you'll need to narrow the problems down further than "it doesn't work" for us to help.

Lastly, saying you're girlfriend is always feeling lost is a very dangerous thing. A stiletto to the head won't help your problems. :D

MasterC 08-13-2003 03:28 AM

Welcome to LQ :)

Ok, first off, I'm gonna suggest to either install Peanut to the Hard drive (like you are wanting to do) OR get another distro that does so from the get go. Xandros, Mandrake, SuSE, or RedHat would be a few you should look into. These distros capitalize on ease of use for newbies while still providing the stability and speed linux has been known to have. That along with that they are more widely used (meaning more people will be able to provide you with responses to your questions) are a few reasons to give them a try.

CDRW's in linux are covered by something called SCSI emulation. What this means to you is very little, other than you will have to setup your distro to use SCSI emulation. This is usually not very hard, but you will have to tell us a few things. Which boot loader does Peanut use (since this will be on the HD once you do the HD install, you might not be able to tell us quite yet, meaning you might not be able to until you can get Peanut on the HD or use a distro that comes standard as installed on the HD)?

Your resolution might be able to be increased by pressing CTRL ALT and either the + or - key on the numberpad. If this works, that's going to be the easiest way. Otherwise you will have to edit a file in the /etc directory. Using your favorite text editor open the file:
And find the section called "Screen"

Now in that section, look at the number it has for "defaultdepth". That corresponds to the section you will now need to edit. Place the resolution you want at the front of the sets of resolution available. So it might look like this:
Modes "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024"
And you will need to change it to (assuming you want 1024x768):
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "1280x1024"

Save that file, and restart X (if you reboot I don't think the changes will remain). To restart X type:
Where BACKSPACE is your backspace key.

Most of the things you are having problems with though, won't be able to be fixed until you get Peanut on your HD, or install a distro that goes on the HD natively.



Tancrede 08-13-2003 07:53 AM

Welcome mate !
i am a new linux user ... 2 months now

Here is my own experience :
Best way to learn Linux is first to make a dual boot Win / Linux
This will help you installing the same tools in Linux as you had in windoze.
( Outlook - Evolution )
( Nero - K3b )
( Word - OpenOffice ) ...

I recommend to use Mandrake 9.1 because it recognize a lot of hardware ( I have a MSI Ti 4200, AC97 Sound Card, Epson Photo 830 ) and it's quite simple to install.
Simpliest interface is KDE , very similar to Windoze.

After weeks of studying and adapting linux, my Windoze went to the garbage and i am using only the mandrake 9.1 distro.

Thanks everybody in LQ

XzeroX 08-13-2003 10:06 PM

Ok,Maybe I'll be alittle more CLEAR cause you guys seem REALLY REALLY lost about my problem..1) Linux IS! installed onto my Hard drive, now here's the kicker, when I boot up without the CD. I get a Lilo screen and the only way I can boot is though dos (which I don't have cause I formated only in linux. EXT3 if you need to know what format). What's up with that? 2) The burnering program reconized my Cd-R as a CD-Rom device but NOT as a burner,how do I force that onto Linux to use. Thanks to ya'll for helpin me go into Linux more or less easyer (Been jumpin up and down,tring voodoo PC spells for awhile Of course, only 4 windows 95 and up.) OH! Yesss.. I heard I can emu Windows, How do I get my EXE's to ACT like EXE's and not as zips? Or I'm just being linux-no knowlage? Thanks again for looking is over,Oh and Cmaster..THANK YOU! For The Lan, (Ya, I'm jumping all over) I got static IP,Netmask and my Gateway,The lovly model is a LinkSys 8 port rerouter. ( I know my net works from my other windows using PC's) Thank god I didn't try a mass swich. One of my other consers is how do I share my stuff with other pc's and vise-versa? I got 10 gigs worth of movies and mp3's that need to get off my dad's pc. Thanks ahead of time,ya'll!

Now not the newest newbie

Oxagast 08-13-2003 10:32 PM

you can set up file sharing in windows on the other computer and mount the shares in linux with samba, or you could setup an ftpd on your linux box and upload to it, with the boot up and get lilo then can only go to dos that i thnk would be fixed wtih /etc/lilo.conf i think it has examples in the file that will tell you how to do it the assuming you have a kenrel on your hard drive? in /boot? it could only have one on the cdrom not sure how that distro does things on install, and you can run certain types of windows compat exe's with linux through wine, but it's very buggy most stuff dont work yet, but it's worth a shot.

XzeroX 08-13-2003 11:22 PM

Oxagast....I got one word..WHAT?!?!?! Wine? Samba? ^_^;;; I'm a newbie of a newbie. Slooowww down..Were can I get wine? What's simba? do I make sure I got meself a kernal?..Wait a sec,What is a kernal? I have NO idea what I'm doing. (I'm lucky I can get the bloody thing to just set up prop.) If you could put that into a step-by-step thing were I can understand. (Like I said above..I feel my G/F's pain with this thing.) I would love you forever,will,intill the next time I get cash,then that's my newfound lover, but anyways,seriously. I know you tried,propley someone who is abit familer with linux could understand..but I'm a hardcore win ME junkie goin to Linux cause he was tired of crashes and he bit off more then he could chew..Maybe I should go back to windows....?

Oxagast 08-13-2003 11:47 PM for wine, the windows emu for linux samba site (i think? never had to go to it before...) for the kernel which is like the base of linux everything passes through it in some way or another, and basically you would compile your kernel (make menuconfig (pick the stuff you want); make bzImage; make dep; make modules; make modules_install) but there are numerous howtos on the subject of compiling kernels (more detailed then i can be), then you could put the bzImage in /boot (ususally you would have to mount that cuz on most distros it's as a diff partition) then you would edit /etc/lilo.conf to have that bzImage (the compiled kernel) in it, or you could just find the old kernel that the Peanuts linux uses (should be on the cdrom somewhere) and add it to your /boot and make hte entery in lilo.conf

for the wine and samba sites they both provide some pretty good howtos that will give you step by step information on how to install, configure, and use them. it's possible that all this stuff is already installed but i dont have expierance with your distro, you would just find out what commands each uses and read hte man pages (man commanduwannaknowabout), maybe you should just mess around and get a generic linux tutorial and get comfortable with it before you start trying to install complicated programs and compiling kernels and such.

XzeroX 08-14-2003 12:00 AM

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! Now, All I need left is my CD-R rom and my net problem..

MasterC 08-14-2003 12:47 AM

Your static IP means you'll have to setup your /etc/resolv.conf manually. That or if you can setup simply go with DHCP from your router (ideal) then that's the best way to go. Fire up a terminal and type:
dhcpcd eth0
And it should resolve all info on it's own (assuming you've enabled DHCP in your router's config). If you want to go static after that, be sure to backup/copy down the info in your /etc/resolv.conf for use after the first network restart (reboot) after setting the static IP. With a static IP you don't get all the info from the router, instead you have to manually go through and setup all the gateway info, the DNS info and all. DHCP is the easiest way to go, but of course for server use (port forwarding) you must use a static IP..


XzeroX 08-14-2003 01:01 AM

Ok, Maybe I am just being a loser..I enabled DHCP (already on). Now..My whole TABLE expect for my pc is gone and my net still don't work.BTW, I'm just tring to surf the net, no Server use. But, How do I config that /etc/resolv.conf manually? And I might have gotten the IP's wrong. Also,Might as well tell you, The setup demains a domanin " or Org,you knmow"..Now, I don't WANT a domain, what do I do?

gsibble 08-14-2003 02:15 AM

Honestly XzeroX, I would reccomend reformatting, installing Mandrake 9.1, and restarting from scratch. It sounds like Peanuts is a little hard for a newbie :( Mandrake is great and will let you do EVERYTHING in graphical format if you want to.

I gurantee you it will fix all of your problems. Every single one.

MasterC 08-14-2003 02:21 AM

For the domain just use something like:
If it's asking for a hostname, put whatever you'd like or just:

And make sure the box is checked (if there is one) for DHCP. Lastly, should all that fail, have you tried running:
dhcpcd eth0

If so, did you get any errors? And what do you mean your whole table except your PC is gone? I don't quite follow?

To manually setup /etc/resolv.conf you just fire up your favorite text editor and open up that file, then add the info for your ISP's nameservers (which you might be able to find out by calling them or looking on a working box), then add them in the form of:

Where is the IP you get from ISP for their nameserver's (DNS servers).


XzeroX 08-14-2003 02:35 AM

Ok,The LAN box has a DHCP table, showing who has what IP Adress.All my windows got erased AFTER I ran dhcpcd eth0 (I don't want to change linux cause it's more fun learning, even though it bugs you guys.) and still can not connect, my card is installed right (Peanuts came with a red hat install for hardware) But if you guys think it's best if I just change linux...Maybe something that autodecetes all your network settings? :-D

The guy who keeps asking one too many questions and not making himself clear...


MasterC 08-14-2003 03:01 AM

Didn't I read you have a Linksys 8 port router? Running dhcpcd shouldn't effect the DHCP table on that thing at all, unless you are restarting each PC connected to it, or dropping/renewing their leases?

Anyway, if dhcpcd isn't doing it for you, can you post up what you get from typing (as root):


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