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Old 04-16-2009, 09:16 AM   #1
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Wanted: Easy install from iso help.

Dell desktop P111, 500mhz, 128mb ram.

*No cd burner
*The bios does not support USB boot.
*Booting off Puppy 4.1 on /dev/hda1
*Everything including Puppy 4.2 (frugal) and wireless works. *(RaLink-RA61)

I would like to install G:Mini rc01. Slitaz, MintFluxbox, Vector light, Mepis light or any other small distro from iso in the free space.

In addition I am willing to scrap everything and start from scratch.

Any assistance. including an idiot proof "HOW TO" tutorial would be highly appreciated.

Thanks a lot...


*The following is from cfdisk:

/dev/hda1 ...primary..ext2... 608mb. Puppy 4.1
/dev/hda2 ...primary..ext2... 938mb. Puppy 4.2 (frugal)
/dev/hda4 ...primary..ext3... 678mb. free (boot)
/dev/hda3 ...primary..ext2... 300mb. swap

*The following is from grub menu.lst (Puppy4.1)

# GRUB configuration file '/boot/grub/menu.lst'.
# generated by 'grubconfig'. Sun Apr 12 11:10:07 2009
# The backup copy of the MBR for drive '/dev/hda' is
# here '/boot/grub/mbr.hda.23600'. You can restore it like this.
# dd if=/boot/grub/mbr.hda.23600 of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
# Start GRUB global section
#timeout 15
color light-gray/blue black/light-gray
# End GRUB global section
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Linux (on /dev/hda1)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=normal
# Linux bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title puppy4 frugal (on /dev/hda2)
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
kernel /puppy4/vmlinuz pmedia=idehd psub=puppy-4.2retro-k2.6.21.7
initrd /puppy4/initrd.gz
# Linux bootable partition config ends
title Install GRUB to floppy disk (on /dev/fd0)
pause Insert a formatted floppy disk and press enter.
root (hd0,0)
setup (fd0)
pause Press enter to continue.
title Install GRUB to Linux partition (on /dev/hda1)
root (hd0,0)
setup (hd0,0)
pause Press enter to continue.
title - For help press 'c', then type: 'help'
root (hd0)
title - For usage examples, type: 'cat /boot/grub/usage.txt'
root (hd0)

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Old 04-16-2009, 10:38 AM   #2
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You have 4 primary partitions ...
turn it into 3 primary + 1 extended (including all free space)
within extended make logical partitions

For Vector Linux light - /home= 5 GB ext3
/ = 4 GB reiserfs

Swap = 300MB OK

Use the parted magic live CD or qtparted
Old 04-16-2009, 11:16 AM   #3
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All the Live CDs that I have seen are pretty self explainitory. You will want to use the manual option when you get to partitioning.

I could ask, if everything works why change? But I have at least 10 OSs on my main box at all times for play.

Right now I am on an old HP because I am resizing a partition on the main box.

The Live CD will be pretty automatic in all respects except for the partitioning. You are the only one that knows what kind of extra space you have. You do have the one partition that is big enough for another SMALL OS. If you want to do that just choose the option to use the largest free space when you come to the partition part. The CD will do the rest.

If you are going to try and put all those on at once you will need to wipe your drive and start over.

I would use sfdisk to partition the drive from a Live CD.
sfdisk hda
Your 4 partitions will come up in terminal and the menu will be on the bottom.
Just select one partition at a time and select delete until you have wiped them all out.
Select write and enter.
When that is done;
Select new
Select logical (this might be "extended")
Select linux native
Toggle boot
Select write

This will give you one linux extended partition in which you can put as many logical partitions as you want or can fit in. You are limited to 4 primary partitions. An Extended partition is a type of primary partition.

Before you leave sfdisk I would create 1 partition at the end of the extended partition and that would be a small swap partition. This makes sure that you have a readable partition for the partitioner on the LiveCDs.

The rest of your partitions can be added as needed in the Live CD install partition section. This is where you will need to select "manual" when given the option in the installation proccess.

I would install the OSs in 1 partition apiece on that small a drive if you are multibooting. The OS you install last will be the one you are booting from.

When you are installing and get to the "where should we put grub" part (some don't have this option) make sure it is going on the partition with that OS. This way if you have boot problems you now where all the OSs have their own /boot/grub/menu.lst. Makes it easier to recover from terminal on a LiveCD if grub is somehow buggered.

As you install each OS will install grub and update it to include any other present OSs. At least in theory.
It is nice to have each menu.lst on the individual OSs so you can copy them to each other if you need to. The last one on should have all of them in its list.

If, when all are installed, they do not boot due to some error or other. Reboot a LiveCD. Pull up the terminal and as root;
sudo (or whatever)grub
grub find /boot/grub/stage1
(here you will get a list
choose the the last - say
grub root (hd0,4)
grub setup (hd0)
grub quit
reboot and everything should work.

Most things numerate HDDs starting with "a" or "1" as in your boot from hda1. In grub this is expressed as (hd0,0) because grub does not use letters and starts with 0 instead of 1.

The main thing, the most important thing you must do to be successful at this is HAVE FUN.
Old 04-16-2009, 11:57 AM   #4
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You could look at 'SlackwareŽ12_Janux_NET_NoBurn_Install' for the install. Sure the link refers to Slackware but you can generally do the install of any distribution with this technique.

This link and others are available from 'Slackware-Links'. More than just SlackwareŽ links!
Old 04-16-2009, 04:50 PM   #5
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Sorry for the confusion


The instructions are on point. However it's not written in language, with examples for a newbie.



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