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jonhanna 12-11-2008 12:05 PM

urgent question
 
what are the two main utilities in linux?
also what is a paper program and what are two of them that are commonly available?

Quakeboy02 12-11-2008 12:07 PM

It doesn't look urgent to me. It looks more like a homework assignment.

pixellany 12-11-2008 12:09 PM

This appears to be a homework assignment...

Regardless, "urgent" will not get you very far here.

Please give us some more detail on what you are trying to do, what kind of sources you are using, etc. For example:
utilities to do what?
"paper program" to do what?

TB0ne 12-11-2008 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonhanna (Post 3371903)
what are the two main utilities in linux?
also what is a paper program and what are two of them that are commonly available?

Yes, looks like homework to me too, aside from making very little sense. "Two main utilities?"..."paper program"???

jonhanna 12-11-2008 12:17 PM

homework
 
yest it is homework and i have been given the assignment of reading chapter 2 and 3 of red hat linux adition 3. i have reread these two chapters over and over since 8:30 this morning and i cant find them anywhere in the chapters. never mind the utiltiy one i found that. 1st question is what is a paper program, name two of them that commonly are available in linux? the second is if you do not install grub on the master boot record of the hard disk, how can you boot linux? please help, i know you guys think im a punk kid who is trying to get out of homework but i really cant find it.

AuroraCA 12-11-2008 12:24 PM

Is your objective to get your homework done or to learn?

You may wish to use Google and the search terms you've given in your post and see if they yield any results.

pixellany 12-11-2008 12:25 PM

Thank you for acknowledging that it is homework.

The rules state that you should not EXPECT us to do your homework, but it is possible to get help if you approach it correctly.

I still have no clue what you mean by "paper program"----can you give some kind of context?

As for GRUB, you might find something useful in the "booting" link in my sig below. To point you in the right direction, here is a fundamental: Whatever device the BIOS attempts to boot must have boot code in the first sector (or equivalent---eg I'm not clear on what happens booting a CD). The common bootable devices seen by the BIOS include hard drives, floppies, CDs and DVDs, and USB drives.

jonhanna 12-11-2008 12:27 PM

my objective is to learn. my class is just me and a teacher so regardless i have to learn the stuff. but i cannot find it in my book and i have been searching google. im not looking for a direct answer, im just trying to figure out where to look and the definition. but thank you i will try that.

jonhanna 12-11-2008 12:37 PM

alright sooo, you cannot do a dual boot without grub? i think thats what i got out of reading that stuff. as far as the paper programs thats all the question says and it hints at nothing of the sort in my book. thank you for helping me on the first question.

Quakeboy02 12-11-2008 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonhanna (Post 3371921)
1st question is what is a paper program, name two of them that commonly are available in linux?

Unless they're talking about word processing programs, i can't imagine what a paper program is.

Quote:

the second is if you do not install grub on the master boot record of the hard disk, how can you boot linux?
HINT: There might be an alternative boot loader besides grub.

jonhanna 12-11-2008 12:50 PM

alright i'll try looking into the paper programs more and try to find something in the book, thank you for the tip.

jonhanna 12-11-2008 12:58 PM

alright so its not paper, its pager, my teach made a typo lol

pixellany 12-11-2008 02:12 PM

so---"pager software" might mean something to do with memory management, the various utilities used for displaying text one page at a time, or maybe even something to do with the PAGER that Doctors and Drug Dealers carry.

In the context of your class--or the book-- what do you think he means by "pager"?

jonhanna 12-11-2008 02:17 PM

i would say along the lines of memory, because we have only had one class and he said nothing along the lines of pager like doctors and stuff

ehawk 12-11-2008 04:16 PM

I believe the two common pager programs you are talking about are called "more" and "less"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_(command)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Less_(Unix)

I got the hint from doing a google search for

"pager program" linux

The first hit

http://www.walkernews.net/2008/07/06...-page-by-page/

mentions it in the context of use in mysql

You can create a boot disk on a diskette and then change the order of booting in the BIOS to look at the disk drive before the hard drive. It is often a good idea to create a boot diskette anyway, in case something breaks and you can't boot into linux using the grub installation in the mater boot record (mbr). I think this is what the question has in mind as an answer, seeing as it is introductory material.


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