Upgrading to Mandrake 10.1 Official (need advise)

wardialer · 03-19-2005, 07:59 PM

Mandrake 10.1 Official CDs. I just ordered them.

Now, I am currently dual booting Windows 2000 with Mandrake Linux 9.1. How would I updrade without dumping everything and still keeping my Windows as a dual boot? I am assuming I will not have to do partitioning because I already have Linux partitions setup from the previous 9.1 install. Please be kind enough to explain the steps to me. I would appreciate it. And I know I will have to backup.

I guess there wont be any Partitioning since already created Linux partitions during the 9.1 install...

Please explain the steps of the upgrade process. I know already on how to install Linux clean, but I never did an upgrade install from a current system running Windows/Linux. So, how can I upgrade to 10.1 without losing Windows or something?

pongmaster · 03-19-2005, 08:45 PM

After you've done your backup:
Boot your new Mandy 10.1 install CD. Follow through to partitioning as normal.
When you get to partitioning (and depending on how you have your partitions now) you can either delete all your Mandrake 9x partitions and then get Mandrake to install into the 'free space' that you just created, leaving the installer to sort out partitioning for you, or you can define your partitions yourself. If you already have your /home on a seperate partition, then you can leave this intact and just create a / partition for the install.
If you partition yourself, and you want to install the lot, then I'd give / at least 5Gb.
If you don't mess about with your Windows partition, then yes you'll still be able to dual boot - Lilo will pick up your Win partition and add it automatically. Your Windows will be left untouched.

If you want to resize your Win partition then you need to do a defrag (minimum) and probably a scandisk of your Windows partition prior to resizing it.
HTH.

EDIT
Personally I wouldn't choose the 'upgrade' option in the installer, but go for a full install from 9x to 10.1. You might run into some problems upgrading - 10.1 seems a bit flaky in this area.

masonm · 03-19-2005, 11:54 PM

I agree with not choosing the upgrade option. Those upgrades can cause more problems than they solve. Burn the stuff you want to keep and then wipe it all out and do a fresh install.

You can probably keep your partiions as they are and just reformat them for a clean install.

wardialer · 03-20-2005, 03:34 PM

So, when I bootup from the new Mandrake 10.1 install CD, I will have to just delete the current Linux partitions that was from the 9.1 install when the Partitioning part comes up????

When I viewed my existing Linux partitions in Diskdrake, I noriced it had no delete button. Instead, I saw Undo, Unmount, and Clear All. Which one should I choose to only to delete the existing Linux partitions?

And I will be extra careful on not to remove the Windows partitions which is colored in blue.

mugstar · 03-20-2005, 04:18 PM

There shouldn't be any need to delete existing partitions unless you want to create different sized new ones.

If the partitions are already laid out the way you want, then just assign one for /, swap and whatever else and they'll be formatted by the installer.

spoody_goon · 03-20-2005, 04:29 PM

Quote:

And I will be extra careful on not to remove the Windows partitions which is colored in blue.

Also be very careful the installer don't change the file system type to win32 when you set up your mount. That was a mistake I had made.

wardialer · 03-20-2005, 07:22 PM

I already have these partitions layed out by the previous 9.1 install. So please tell me what would be the best route as far as partitioning?

Device:hda1
DOS device letter:C
NTFS
36GB

/home
hda5
Journalised FS:ext3
3.9GB
Formatted
Mounted

/root
hda6
Journalised FS:ext3
3.9GB
Formatted
Mounted

/swap
hda7
Journalised FS:ext3
651MB
Formatted
Mounted

/
hda8
Journalised FS:ext3
5.8GB
Formatted
Mounted

swap
hda9
Linux swap
494MB
Formatted
Mounted

hda3
DOS drive letter: D
NTFS
3.4GB

wardialer · 03-21-2005, 11:05 AM

I would appreciate some faster replies please.

Im not going to throw a temper tantrum, but please, I would like to upgrade my Linux box as soon as possible.

Now I gave you my current partition layout above, what do I have to do during the freash install of Mandrake 10.1?

Like I said, I have all the notes of my first install, but I do not know what to do as far as upgrading or FRESH INSTALL would go under the CURRENT Linux partitions....thats the problem here.

Franklin · 03-21-2005, 11:41 AM

I was going to reply last night, but I decided to wait and see if you had another "hissy fit".
Additionally, your current scheme displayed too much cluelessness to respond to at midnight.

Seems you have not learned too much in regard to patience.

Oh well.

Any reason you have 2 swap partitions?
Also, 3.8 gigs will be a bit cramped for / if you do a full install.
/home looks fine.
/root does not need it's own partition - certainly not as big as you have.

Keep /home as is, get rid of one swap, and combine the rest as / and you should be OK.
(For a basic setup)

HTH

wardialer · 03-21-2005, 06:18 PM

So do i have to get rid of the "/" too? or, get rid of the "/root"?

Is "/" the same thing as "/root"?

So, during the install, which of these should I keep and what not to keep?

Or, should I just delete all of them and start from scratch when the partitioning part comes up? I think its just best to remove all of them (EXCEPT WINDOWS) and then start resizing them as new or from scratch. But please explain what Linux partitions and sizes I have to create for a basic fresh install. And please explain this so I could add this information on my Linux Install Notes. (So I will not have to ask again with my "hissy fit"}

But I cant see the DELETE button. I could only see Undo, Clear All, and Unmount in Diskdrake.

How should I delete them?

Franklin · 03-21-2005, 06:26 PM

/root is the home directory of the root user

/ is the root directory of your distro

swap is the swap partition

/swap means nothing

/home is where the user's home directories are. For example:

/home/steve /home/guest /home/wardialer

All you need for an install is a SWAP and / (root) partition.

That being said, it is best to have /home on it's own partition.

My fstab:

Code:

/dev/hda1        /mnt/win2000     ntfs        ro               1   0
/dev/hda5        swap             swap        defaults         0   0
/dev/hda6        /boot            ext2        defaults         1   2
/dev/hda7        /home            reiserfs    defaults         1   2
/dev/hda8        /                reiserfs    defaults         1   1
/dev/hda9        /mnt/ubuntu      reiserfs    noauto,user      0   0
/dev/hda10       /mnt/suse        reiserfs    noauto,user      0   0
/dev/hda13       /mnt/tunes       ext3        noauto,user      0   0
/dev/hda14       /mnt/data-l      ext3        noauto,user      0   0
/dev/hda15       /mnt/data-w      vfat        noauto,user      0   0
/dev/hdb4        /mnt/zip         vfat        noauto,user      0   0
/dev/cdrom       /mnt/cdrom       iso9660     noauto,user,ro   0   0
/dev/fd0         /mnt/floppy      auto        noauto,user      0   0
devpts           /dev/pts         devpts      gid=5,mode=620   0   0
proc             /proc            proc        defaults         0   0

HTH

wardialer · 03-21-2005, 06:29 PM

Ok I think I got it. You see, because what I have right now was actually walked me through. Someone here on this forum said to do what I have right now....(When I installed 9.1 a long time ago)

Ok, so, All I need to keep is the

/SWAP
/home and
/

Am I right???? And how much space I have to give for these??? SHOULD I KEEP THE FOLLOWING? And how much space do I have to keep for these?

[B/home
hda5
Journalised FS:ext3
3.9GB
Formatted
Mounted

/swap
hda7
Journalised FS:ext3
651MB
Formatted
Mounted

/
hda8
Journalised FS:ext3
5.8GB
Formatted
Mounted[/B]

Franklin · 03-21-2005, 06:39 PM

No.

What you have labled as /swap is not a linux swap filesystem. It is an ext3 filesystem. These are 2 entirely different things. You want to keep the swap on hda9, not the /SWAP on hda7.

I would combine hda8, hda7, and hda6 into one ext3 partition and call it / (not /root ).

wardialer · 03-21-2005, 06:44 PM

Ok, here we go again:

Correct me if Im wrong again.

The following I should keep right? See below: Please say that Im right this time....and much space do I have to give for each one this time?

And I thought Reiser was better than ext3...????

/home
hda5
Journalised FS:ext3
3.9GB
Formatted
Mounted

swap
hda9
Linux swap
494MB
Formatted
Mounted

/
hda8
Journalised FS:ext3
5.8GB
Formatted
Mounted

You said combine the hda8, hda7, and hda6 into "/"

So, you want the /home directory to be created just by itself?

wardialer · 03-21-2005, 06:55 PM

I think I need an outline of how am I going to do this. Can you post like an example of how am I going to combine these partitions? Because Im confused, your telling me before to keep the SWAP instead of the /SWAP and your mentioning to combine hda7 which is the /SWAP. And how do I combine the rest into one "/" partition?

Fstab:

Code:

/dev/hda8 / ext3 defaults 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
/dev/hda5 /home ext3 defaults 1 2
none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdc,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0
#/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs iocharset=iso8859-1,ro,umask=0 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda6 /root ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda7 /swap ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda9 swap swap defaults 0 0