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Old 12-08-2014, 09:14 PM   #1
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uncertainty about boot order options

I recently started trying to install a linux distribution on an elderly Asus desktop running XP with a Pentium (R) 4 Cpu 3 Ghz chip and 1 G of RAM.
Several tries using different distributions and different DVDs gave a bewildering variety of error messages. As the same DVDs functioned in other computers, I provisionally decided that the DVD reader on the desktop was dirty or defective, and decided to try something else.

The options offered in the BIOS included "Other Boot Device" and "Plug and Play O/S" which is marked "No".

I moved "Other Boot Device" to the top of the list, but it still did not recognze the USB key I had carrying Linux Mint.

I didn't want to touch "Plug and Play O/S" until I was sure what it referred to. Would it be a USB key,or an external hard-drive, or something else altogether?
Old 12-08-2014, 10:12 PM   #2
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You have to enable "Boot from USB device" if such an option presented.
And keep in mind that your USB stick may be mentioned as hard drive, so check for "Hard drives boot order" (or something similar) option as well.
Select "Hard drives boot order" option and hit Enter. If your stick will appear as one of hard drives, set it as first hdd.

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Old 12-08-2014, 10:12 PM   #3
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Plug and play refers to the ability of the OS to read and set the drivers for something that is plugged into a USB port. Window and Linux all do that, so setting it to YES is correct.

From what you have written, it may be that your BIOS is too old to allow boot from USB disk. In such a case, I would recommend getting an internal DVD drive and a cheap 5.25 inch case. Make your own external DVD drive out of it, which is a good tool to have around.
Old 12-08-2014, 10:37 PM   #4
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for a old p4 box

is it USB1
or did you add a EXTRA USB2 card

old xp ( no service pack 1,no service pack 2,no service pack 3) machines had the then average USB1 ports

forget about even trying to use a dead slow usb1 port to boot or install
-- it is like SLOW dial up phone line internet -- dead slow

if you have a usb2 card in it ( pci) you mighe be able to boot from that

now as to all these weird errors

XP all by it's self CAN NOT!!!! burn a iso IMAGE
it normally cam with a 30 day free TRIAL of "nero"


what software did you use to burn the iso
just coping it to a dvd WILL NOT WORK

have a look as installing the windows program
-- it is FREE , i i have used it for years
Old 12-09-2014, 01:38 PM   #5
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I have been burning the images with Brasero (which has been behaving very well lately, although I have also posted a question concerning Brasero itself).

I then run them as a livedisk on a machine that already has a linux distribution installed. I actually used them to install linux on an old laptop running XP yesterday (we tried Linux Mint, and went with Lubuntu, feeling it was a safer choice with only 512 Mb of memory).

Since then I have decided the fault probably lies in the computers disk drive, and the owner is at the moment installing a spare.

At the moment the choices offered by the BIOS on this machine are in the following order:
1 Other Boot Device
3 Removable Device (Legacy Floppy)
4 IDI Hard Drive

And below the choices there is the line about the Plug and Play device.

I changed the default concerning "Plug and Play" to "Yes" and tried again with two different USB keys (one with Mint and one with Puppy) without result.
The USB ports are USB2.

At present I am assuming that the USB keys are out of luck, and I should be able to try again with a new DVD drive in the next day or two.

If there is still no joy, I will try again with a Puppy CD that the machine is apparently willing to read. The only reason that is not higher on the list of choices is that it is not a distribution I am currently using, and having persuaded these people to try linux, I have elected myself as their trouble-shooter!
Old 12-09-2014, 04:16 PM   #6
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Going to be difficult to boot to usb on that I'd think.

You'd think that burning a dvd and testing it on other system would prove dvd is good but it doesn't. Older dvd readers simply may not like that for a number of reasons. Burn speed is usual culprit. Another may be loader syslinux versus isolinux. (rare for that)

I'd try a CD-r burned at slowest speed even if you have to get a network boot installer.
Old 12-29-2014, 02:47 PM   #7
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There is always more than one way to skin a cat. In this case, I found another cat: I was given a tower, so I installed Mint 17.1, and gave it to my friend; the older tower can now be cannibalized.


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