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Old 12-06-2008, 05:20 PM   #16
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hi guys...
I am stuck in the same problem . to install nvidia drive you need to be out of the X11.. but to execute the command 'init 3' you can not be logged as normal user. some clues on how to get out of the windowing system, or even better login as root in non-graph mode?? THNX
Old 12-06-2008, 06:42 PM   #17
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how to log as root in F10??

here is the solution: cheers!

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Old 12-16-2008, 02:22 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by lazlow View Post
The problem is most probably a failed yum upgrade. There is a reason that they still suggest doing a fresh install. People hate to hear it, but a fresh install is (in most cases) the easiest, fastest, and safest, method of upgrading. Everyone thinks that they will save all this time by just upgrading a running system. Two things generally happen. 1. Something obviously fails (as in your case) and they spend an inordinate number of hours trying to fix it (and usually wind up doing a fresh install in the end). 2. The upgrade appears to be completely successful but in reality a number of tiny things are off just enough to slow down the machine. I cannot tell you the number of times I have done a fresh install on a machine and the owners are SHOCKED at how much faster it is. Goofy problems tend to just disappear with a fresh install.

ok ... then tell me only one thing ..... why they are providing this kind of service like "preupgrade" if it is not working at all ...huuu

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Because Fedora is a development distro. That is why it is often referred to as bleeding edge or as RH's test bed. New things are introduced in Fedora all the time. After all the bugs have been worked out they are introduced into the next release of RHEL. They have been working on the ability to use yum upgrade since at least FC6(and probably before) but it still fails in a high percentage of cases (which is why it has not appeared in RHEL). Personally I believe that it will never be perfected. There are just too many variables to handle. Virtually every application you install has a config file of some sort. These config files have tiny (and sometimes not so tiny) changes from version to version and install to install, which can cause a variety of issues. Since Linux is all about choice, the variation of options is approaching unlimited. How do you guarantee the cleanup of applications you may not have seen or after the almost limitless combinations available? Essentially, the only way to be certain is to do a clean install, but most people think that there must be a easier way.


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