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Old 01-23-2012, 12:52 AM   #1
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Ubuntu upgrades on a netbook


Is there an easy way to jump from 8.04 to 11.10? I'm not going to go a step at a time and am thinking of formatting the HD and doing a fresh install from a stick. Trouble is, I'm a bit afraid to do that as my experience level with linux is low.The netbook has no partition 8.04 is the only o/s, it's a Dell Inspiron mini. Alternatively, whats wrong with continuing to use 8.04? It works well for what I do with it, mostly banking and stocks is all, so it never goes anywhere it shouldn't and it is shutdown 95 or more % of its life.
 
Old 01-23-2012, 01:05 AM   #2
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If you dont need a new system why are you worries about it? Only problem with 8.04 is that you dont have updates for it anymore, so what? If it is fine the way it is then fine!!

Anyway lets say you want to upgrade your OS, 1st thing to check is your hardware specifications and the most important question is: Is your hard enough to run that new system? Can it handle the new system w/o fry ?

About install Ubuntu is very easy and the install is guided you wont have any trouble.
Just careful to dont erase your data if you have any. You can keep your home partition and use it for the new system.

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Old 01-23-2012, 01:39 AM   #3
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Which model of Dell Mini, specifically?

The first thing you should try is a "Live USB" of 11.10, see if you actually like it (and if it likes your hardware).

The problem with 8.04 is no security updates since April 2011. For online banking and stocks especially, I personally sleep easier knowing a security team is supporting me with the latest bug fixes and security patches.

If you are comfortable administering your own system with no help from Ubuntu, then you can theoretically continue with 8.04 indefinitely.
 
Old 01-23-2012, 03:30 AM   #4
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I'll answer your question for you.
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Is there an easy way to jump from 8.04 to 11.10?
I say no and maintain it is not easy nor is it viable BUT someone posted a thread the other week claiming they have been doing just that. Be very sure and understand that Ubuntu (Canonical) do not recommend jumping from one version to one 2 or more steps away. From 8.04 to 8.10 is fine and while I don't like it it certainly is do-able BUT going from 8.04 to 9.04 or further (not including 10.04 though) is highly impracticle not to mention the massive changes that Ubuntu has had in that time frame. You should in theory be able go go from 8.04 LTS to 10.04 LTS without any problems and then again to 12.04 (LTS) but this misses each step (non LTS releases) in between
 
Old 01-23-2012, 09:11 AM   #5
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you can go from 8.04(LTS) to 10.04(LTS). A good reason to do that would be support, considering that 8.04 doesn't have support anymore and 10.04 has a bunch of upgrades.
To go beyond 10.04 (LTS) you will need to check that your hardware support the new graphical interface in Ubuntu as they went from Gnome to Unity. Unity has some crazy requirement in hardware.

To upgrade open up synaptic package manager go to settings and select Software Sources, click on the Updates tab and look where it says Release upgrade then from the drop down menu select Long term support releases only.
I am not sure but I think you will have to disable the list of repositories from the Ubuntu Software (main, universe, restricted, and multiverse)

Good luck to you and let us know how you did.
 
Old 01-23-2012, 10:32 AM   #6
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If you are using "Dellbuntu" 8.04 that came preinstalled on your netbook, then you cannot upgrade to a supported release (10.04 and beyond). The reason being that "Dellbuntu" was a one-time project with a proprietary architecture (lpia) that is now unsupported.

Fresh reinstall is the only way to get a newer Ubuntu on the Dell Mini.

HOWEVER, zedex99, you really need to tell us which specific model Mini you have, so we can give you a good recommendation.
 
Old 01-23-2012, 12:06 PM   #7
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Probably will test, wipe and install 12.04

Thanks people. It looks like I can continue to run as I do, but that security is the issue. That's pretty much what I figured. The computer doesn't have a model number, it is a 10 inch black Dell Inspiron Mini with an Intel Atom sticker and an "N Series" sticker. I can take a photo and attach that if desired. The installation is not 8.04(LTS) so the upgrade to 10.04 is not doable. Synnaptic Package Manager has no Software Sources option, probably because it is not a LTS installation. I'll spend the next two months upgrading my non existent skills; then aim for a test, a wipe and install of 12.04. Thanks again. If anyone has an easy way to do this I'd appreciate the info, but doubt that it will happen.
 
Old 01-23-2012, 12:14 PM   #8
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12.04 is a great choice (if it supports your hardware; you can verify this by running in "live" mode for a while) because it is LTS and will be supported through April 2017 (probably longer than the lifetime of your Mini).

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Old 01-23-2012, 12:49 PM   #9
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I think you'll have to use bacula and an external drive to store your data. A clean install may be your only option for a direct upgrade. There is another more risky way to do it. You'll have to download and make all the USB images between 8 and 11 and then upgrade one release at a time. This might be easier for a newbie even though its more work. Either way, back up your data and applications!!!
 
Old 01-23-2012, 01:40 PM   #10
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Thanks people. It looks like I can continue to run as I do, but that security is the issue. That's pretty much what I figured. The computer doesn't have a model number, it is a 10 inch black Dell Inspiron Mini with an Intel Atom sticker and an "N Series" sticker. I can take a photo and attach that if desired. The installation is not 8.04(LTS) so the upgrade to 10.04 is not doable. Synnaptic Package Manager has no Software Sources option, probably because it is not a LTS installation. I'll spend the next two months upgrading my non existent skills; then aim for a test, a wipe and install of 12.04. Thanks again. If anyone has an easy way to do this I'd appreciate the info, but doubt that it will happen.
How is it not an LTS, the only thing I can think of is you have the netbook remix which you didn't indicate in your first post. Synaptic should have software sources in the Settings > Repositories menu. Clicking on that should bring up software sources.
 
Old 01-23-2012, 01:45 PM   #11
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For a netbook, may I suggest Xubuntu? Backup your stuff and do a fresh install.
 
Old 01-23-2012, 01:47 PM   #12
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How is it not an LTS, the only thing I can think of is you have the netbook remix which you didn't indicate in your first post. Synaptic should have software sources in the Settings > Repositories menu. Clicking on that should bring up software sources.
"Dellbuntu" was a one-shot OEM deal between Dell and Canonical. It is not LTS, it does not use the standard repos, it is not binary compatible with Ubuntu, there is no upgrade path.
 
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Well then our choices are
1)Use it the way it is until the computer retires
or
2) Download 10.04 and do a fresh install (Back up everything you want to keep as this erase all files in your hard drive)

Anything above 10.04 has to meet some Hardware requirements that perhaps the mini wont meet I don't really know. And rummor has it that 12.04 will be a 64BIT ONLY.

Good luck.
 
Old 01-23-2012, 02:05 PM   #14
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Anything above 10.04 has to meet some Hardware requirements that perhaps the mini wont meet I don't really know.
11.04 ran fine on my Mini 9, haven't tried 11.10 (I'm not really an Ubuntu guy these days, but fond memories since it was my first distro).

If you are having trouble with low hardware specs, then it is recommended to use a lighter desktop (Lubuntu or Xubuntu), NOT to use an old, unsupported release!

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And rummor has it that 12.04 will be a 64BIT ONLY.
Completely false! Please let's not spread that rumor any farther, ok?

The only change for 12.04 is they are removing the "we recommend 32 bit" nonsense from the download page and fully endorsing 64 bit for users with 64 bit machines.

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Old 01-23-2012, 02:50 PM   #15
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The only change for 12.04 is they are removing the "we recommend 32 bit" nonsense from the download page and fully endorsing 64 bit for users with 64 bit machines.
Thank you for clearing that out.
 
  


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