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Old 11-23-2018, 09:33 PM   #1
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Ubuntu Terminal won't accept keyboard or cut/paste activation input


Fresh install Ubu1804LTS on Z170/i5. Installed EVPN from Deb pkg. When I type command "expressvpn activate", I get response "enter activation code". From that point the cursor will not accept any input - neither cut/paste nor manual keyboard.

Terminal is otherwise normal keyboard input except when the EVPN activation code response come up. I also tried sudo gnome-terminal with no diff.

EVPN support staff seem to be out on holiday. I've been away from Linux for a while - never strong on cmd line. I had EVPN working in Ubu1604 on old 775Quad a few months ago and there was no problem as I remember. What am I doing wrong?

BTW - I had the same problem logging in to EVPN acct on FF browser in Ubu. EVPN login page would not accept login creds. Had to get the Deb EVPN installer link on a win7 box. I'm baffled. Whats with Ubuntu keyboard input? Also tried PS2 kybd just for laffs.
 
Old 11-24-2018, 02:09 AM   #2
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Have a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GqvZdCj8lU. It appears that, for security purposes, none of the characters you type in or paste at the activation code prompt are echoed.
 
Old 11-24-2018, 04:46 AM   #3
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... in other words, password input works, you just don't see anything and have to do it blindly.
 
Old 11-24-2018, 04:33 PM   #4
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hydrurga is correct - thanks - I was told by EVPN that the activation does not repeat dots or any indication of data entry. It activated when I hit the ENTER key after cut paste. I've never seen this - no repeat of keystrokes to indicate input. I wiped Ubuntu Gnome and have replaced it with Mint19. I did the debian pkg install of EVPN and hit the invisible activation factor and it works OK, just as it did on Ubu 1604. Problem solved except that the Firefox Add-on doesn't see the desktop app in Mint so now THAT is broken. The two halves are supposed to communicate so you can change VPN server location while in the browser. I'll just use the cmd line application.

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Old 11-25-2018, 03:18 AM   #5
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I've never seen this - no repeat of keystrokes to indicate input.
that means you never used the command line on Linux.

anyhow, glad you figurd it out.
please mark your thread SOLVED.
 
Old 11-26-2018, 05:26 PM   #6
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Prep for W7 end of Life

Ive used Ubuntu on and off for about 10 yrs. The above incident was the 1st time I ever had to use a commercial activation code (EVPN)- never suspecting the ridiculous prospect of "invisibility" to intrude on common sense. This was a short lived project now erased. Both Ubu 18 and Mint cin 19 - gone from Z170. I can only surmise that since my last frequent use of a Linux distro (ubu 16) things have gotten even worse. Insanity compulsion of Linux Devs to produce more distros instead of concentration of effort in making three or four that are generally usable - ???. Original Unity was pretty good and as I remember I could click on a couple of icons to change from HDMI to audio jack and easily make other adjustments when needed. For example sending audio output to different speakers while sliding a visual display from a second system to the primary AVR output, or sending the AV to the kitchen screen while preparing meals.


You guys want to be taken seriously by the millions of users like me who hate Win10? Better step it up and quit the Distro scatology and concentrate on usablity.


Ive got another Win7 OEM started on the Z170 (solved the USB and NVMe problems) and my WSUS USB stick is all loaded up ready for final updates (12GB). I expect an OS to have easy to find readily usable utilities for adjusting sound and video output - not to require hours of study for obscure cmd line experimentation and endless entanglements of pointless incompatibilities. the project was in prep for Win7 end of life. I just disposed of one Win10 box and I'm keeping my other one as a kind of Fish Tank curiosity. What will I do in 2020 when W7 is abandoned? Not sure to what lengths the creatures at MS, Moz, interwebs etc. will go to make it unusable.


One thing is certain - the alternate option of gradually tuning and adjusting an Ubu or Mint box is now out of the question. Mac is a hopeless abomination as well. All I know is that for the present, my systems are all stable, secure, no SPAM, phishing, ads or tracking. Audio for books and music is 7.2 superb and video is stable with beautiful easily configured hi-res displays. I capture media and watch the news and entertainment without constant farcical tweaking. I am bemused by this experience as it bodes ill for the future and the constriction of choices in these matters.

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Old 11-27-2018, 01:26 AM   #7
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Ive used Ubuntu on and off for about 10 yrs. The above incident was the 1st time I ever had to use a commercial activation code (EVPN)- never suspecting the ridiculous prospect of "invisibility" to intrude on common sense. This was a short lived project now erased. Both Ubu 18 and Mint cin 19 - gone from Z170. I can only surmise that since my last frequent use of a Linux distro (ubu 16) things have gotten even worse. Insanity compulsion of Linux Devs to produce more distros instead of concentration of effort in making three or four that are generally usable - ???. Original Unity was pretty good and as I remember I could click on a couple of icons to change from HDMI to audio jack and easily make other adjustments when needed. For example sending audio output to different speakers while sliding a visual display from a second system to the primary AVR output, or sending the AV to the kitchen screen while preparing meals.


You guys want to be taken seriously by the millions of users like me who hate Win10? Better step it up and quit the Distro scatology and concentrate on usablity.


Ive got another Win7 OEM started on the Z170 (solved the USB and NVMe problems) and my WSUS USB stick is all loaded up ready for final updates (12GB). I expect an OS to have easy to find readily usable utilities for adjusting sound and video output - not to require hours of study for obscure cmd line experimentation and endless entanglements of pointless incompatibilities. the project was in prep for Win7 end of life. I just disposed of one Win10 box and I'm keeping my other one as a kind of Fish Tank curiosity. What will I do in 2020 when W7 is abandoned? Not sure to what lengths the creatures at MS, Moz, interwebs etc. will go to make it unusable.


One thing is certain - the alternate option of gradually tuning and adjusting an Ubu or Mint box is now out of the question. Mac is a hopeless abomination as well. All I know is that for the present, my systems are all stable, secure, no SPAM, phishing, ads or tracking. Audio for books and music is 7.2 superb and video is stable with beautiful easily configured hi-res displays. I capture media and watch the news and entertainment without constant farcical tweaking. I am bemused by this experience as it bodes ill for the future and the constriction of choices in these matters.
the topic of this thread has been the case for - well, i guess since unix days, essentially forever.
no visual feedback on password input is a simple way to increase security.
it has NOTHING to do with ANY graphical desktop environment.

after this rant, i sure hope you stick to your promise of not using linux anymore.
it's not like the open source community benefits from a constant influx of users who don't know better than to demand & criticize, and wouldn't recognize good advice when they're being hit on the head with it.
good bye.
 
  


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