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Old 10-06-2005, 11:15 AM   #1
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Trying to get Enlightenment...which files to download?

OK, I'm trying to get Enlightenment for my Linux system (MEPIS), and I'm a little confused.

When I go to the Enlightenment website, I choose the link for the Debian distribution (MEPIS is Debian-based, if I'm remembering correctly), and then (after being bounced to I pick the option for the stable version. And that's where the craziness starts. The next page appears to list a series of dependencies/files (enlightenment-data, libaudiofile0, libc6, libc6.1, libesd0, etc)...the column is named "Other Packages related to Enlightenment", but they have the red "depends" icon next to it. Does that mean I need to download each and every one of those items? Also, down below that, they have a separate section named "Download Enlightenment" (which I'm guessing is the actual core files, maybe)...but I'm not certain which architecture to use. It appears they're going by processor chip-set, but I'm not sure: if I have a pentium processor, would that mean I should pick the i386 architecture? Should you choose the amd64 version for AMD processors? *sigh* Can someone clear through all this clutter for me?
Old 10-06-2005, 11:21 AM   #2
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To add to Superion's post.

I have not seen an enlightenment package for a specific distro and I've checked a few.
Neither have I spotted a galeon package which used to be quite popular.
Do some projects fall out of favour with their brotherhood?
Old 10-25-2005, 05:06 PM   #3
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Hiya...just giving my question a nudge, since no one's answered it yet. Can anyone tell me what I need to know in terms of which files to pull? (It's not like simply pulling down one .exe!)
Old 11-10-2005, 10:24 PM   #4
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The best place to go for information on getting and using Enlightenment (particularly DR17 -- the newest version) is They have a User Guide, icon sets, themes, backgrounds, and more.

Of particular interest to you would be the distribution specific information in the user guide, which includes links to the Debian repository. I use E17 from both Fedora 4 rpms and Gentoo ebuilds, but I have no experience with Debian-based distros, so I can't help with the specifics.
Old 11-11-2005, 07:11 AM   #5
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I was able to get Enlightenment (and it worked too!) with Suse 9.3. It was listed in Yast, but it wasn't on the cds. I haven't tried it yet with Suse 10.
Old 11-11-2005, 09:17 AM   #6
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There are two main versions of Enlightenment: DR16 and DR17. DR17 is the newest one and is under development now, and it takes a bit of effort to build. If you are interested in that version, take Misunderstook's advice and look at It has a lot of good information.

If you are interested in DR16. first fire up synaptic and check to see if it is in your repository list. If so, use that. If not, check in mepis forums to see about adding repositories. (I am not sure what version of debian they use).

You can also install from the .deb files that you found. Use synaptic and check what you have installed against the list of dependencies. You may only need elightenment and enlightenment-data.

To clear up the processor information, use AMD64 only if you have a 64bit AMD processor. IF you have a regular AMD processor or any variety of intel, use anything with i386
Old 11-11-2005, 09:23 AM   #7
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The DR16 version is in the stable (sarge) debian repositories. Nice window manager.
Add the stable sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list, I think you might have that
in Mepis, than just ap-get them (apt-get epplets, also, which gives you nice applets)

Old 11-22-2005, 11:51 PM   #8
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Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the "Universe" repository. To cache what is in universe:
apt-get update
Now re-search:
apt-cache search enlightenment Eterm
Then apt-get install the resulting themes, E and Eterm. After the installation, as a normal user, run enlightement.install. Restart X. and google gkrellm
Old 11-28-2005, 01:21 PM   #9
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Originally posted by number9
Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the "Universe" repository. To cache what is in universe:
apt-get update
Now re-search:
apt-cache search enlightenment Eterm
Then apt-get install the resulting themes, E and Eterm. After the installation, as a normal user, run enlightement.install. Restart X. and google gkrellm
Umm Universe is for Ubuntu not Debian.
If you want some up to date e17 debs (for Debian based distros) read on:

I already wrote this howto once in the Kanotix forum but thought it might do some good here too.
OK let's make this clear.
A line that begins w/ # means "do this as root"
A line that begins w/ $ means "do this as user"
It might be best to copy/paste the following commands. Specifically the first one - you don't want to hose up /etc/apt/sources.list. Yes, you can still edit sources.list with your favorite editor. I suggest using xedit but that's only because it's always installed and supports copy/paste. Use whatever editor you like.

Add the new repository:
$ su
# echo "deb unstable main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get update
Tell apt which enlightenment you want:
# xedit /etc/apt/preferences
Add the following to the bottom of the file:
Package: enlightenment
Pin: version 0.16.999*
Pin-Priority: 999

Package: enlightenment-data
Pin: version 0.16.999*
Pin-Priority: 999
Install the key and update
$ su
# apt-key add archive_key.asc
# apt-get update
Install E17
# apt-get install engage eclair enlightenment-data emodules evidence evas0-bin embryo0-bin e17genmenu etk elicit eterm express epsilon0-bin epeg0-bin edje0-bin enterminus evfs examine entice enlightenment edb-tools enscribe-efl eutils entropy evolume
Now you should be able to log out and back in choosing Enlightenment as your desktop. You can install entrance (e17 log in manager) but it has been buggy on occasion so unless you know how to deal with it perhaps it's best to stick w/ KDM or GDM or XDM or whatever you presently use.

Well that's it. Congrats! You've got E17! Now you probably want to do some custom configuration! Go here: READ the user manual. This is the best resource for documentation related to E17 and it's actually updated quite frequently.


Get some icons:

These are custom icons built for e17 w/ file extension of .eap. You need to unpack the archive to
This will create .eap icons for your applications.
Build it in the normal fashion
$ ./
$ make
$ sudo cp src/e17genmenu /usr/bin
$ e17genmenu
as user to create the menu structure.

Edit the menu
Left click>Configuration>Configuration panel>Menu Editor
OR if the Configuration Panel is not working you can run it from cli:
$ entangle
*HINT* Drag & drop to add apps to the menu. Middle click on the app in menu editor will remove an app or directory.

Get some themes:

Put your themes in
Now you can change the theme w/ Left click>Themes
Left click>Configuration>Configuration panel>Theme Selector

Get some backgrounds:
Save them to
These are .edj files not your standard wallpaper file! To change background:
Left click>Configuration>Configuration panel>Background Selector
OR you can run it from cli:
$ emblem
Now you may want to load/unload some modules.
Get Enlightenment Remote Made Easy:
#mv erme.current /usr/bin/erme
#chmod +x /usr/bin/erme
$ erme

erme is a frontend for enlightenment_remote. You can of course use enlightenment_remote from command line but it has ALOT of parameters and the GUI is pretty nice. It let's you change mouse behavior, load modules etc.

If you don't have a module enabled you may as well unload it since it still consumes resources.

AFAIK an app placed in the menu that is not found on your system will not display an icon in the menu.

You can create your own .edj backgrounds from any wallpaper w/ e17setroot.
$ man e17setroot
Engage is a tool bar w/ zoomable icons. It is configured from the Menu Editor. You must first load Engage since it is a module.
enlightenment_remote -module-load engage
Or just use erme
If you prefer you can install engage-transparent which will replace engage.
apt-get install engage-transparent
No Enlightenment option in my log in manager!
You should have enlightenment.desktop in /usr/share/xsessions
ls /usr/share/xsessions
If not let me know and I can post one but it should be there by default.

E17 modules
You can build these extra modules as user and they will be installed to ~/.e/e/modules BUT you must build them as detailed below or they will not work w/ the debs from the repository listed above!

$ ./ --build=i486-linux-gnu
$make install
Browse the E17 repository here:

*NOTE* Some of the apps made specifically for E17 don't (yet) work as well as they could. I still prefer rox-filer as my file manager and Archive for unarchving files.

Handy links
E17 forums:
e17genmenu forums:
E17 FAQ:
E17 links:

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