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Old 12-08-2015, 12:52 PM   #1
chuckachup
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Lightbulb Trouble making weird but important! program run. Have read all INSTALL and NEWBIE pertinent bits:D


First of all my Windows locked me out, about time haha am looking forwards to cracking back into the dual boot after I learn more about linux.

Just the catalyst I need to really get linuxed up. So I will actually be coming here a lot for a change, to upskill and run my favourite programs.

I want to get this scrabble program working in my Mint Rebecca. THIS IS THE MAIN ADVICE I REQUIRE HERE< TO GET THIS wordbiz.jar file working properly.
The program was dl from www.isc.ro and is a ..um.. you know tarball tarzg whatever thingy.
It installs well enough following their commands to start a game.

Although it's the main scrabble site in the world (stands for International Scrabble Club) there have always been some issues with the linux program, like sounds don't work properly etc etc.

Between me and my linux geek bf at the time 10 years ago we managed to get it working well, after I had found a random shell command online to run within the main wordbiz directory, but back then I was running an outdated version of LHP so wasn't surprised we had issues. The guy that had invented the Shellcommand didn't really know why it worked so well. Most scrabble people aren't very techy!

Anyway now I have this Linux Mint Rebecca, and according to the ISC site I have java 1.7 something so this should be good enough, they say 1.6 or later.

So I installed it following their instructions.

But when I start playing a game (I can get that far) it instantly freezes up when I start pressing buttons such as enter (to subit the word to get the score) or the <done> button which in my working old aps of wordbiz works the same as enter.
I'm also unable to chat in the main channel which is similar to IRC in that it is many people (100) chatting in real time, as in the cursor will not move to the speech / command window.

Tried various things to make it work, probably in the wrong order, and these include:

Trying to uninstall it, trying to get better java, trying to get rid of it by installing again after getting rid of bits of it, trying various purge things as could still see the main wordbiz directory, but my linux knowledge is very piecemeal.
For instance I will be inside the tmp directory where I installed the WordBiz directory opening terminal from in tmp doing something very close to (can't remember exactly, found it online), like I'm actually looking at a directory named WordBiz, and then I say the command that goes something very close to

sudo get-apt purge WordBiz

and it says

E:can't find WordBiz

I've tried everything I can find online, different commands even for Ubuntu to find and uninstall it, nervous it might have installed to 2 different places. I've made sure I copy the case sensitive words and changed the case incase that would help.


Some people on the ISC site have found work arounds unfortunately none of the two I met who had linux wordbiz running perfectly wanted to / or were able to help anyone else get it going well.

I know from watching my ex mess with it that it's just not been ideally written but at the same time it's quite invasive in that it takes snapshots of your HD etc (not in linux but certainly in windows) to try and prevent banned people returning. This is not my current issue, being banned I mean.
So some of it is hidden. Not sure how to find all of the wordbiz prog to purge it or trouble shoot it, but am so addicted to scrabble that there is a lot I will try in linux to get going again.

This will nicely linux me up a bit more.

I'm definitely prepared to spend many hours learning if anyone can offer ideas, and enjoying avoiding windows.

Thanks for reading and looking forwards to becoming more linuxy!

And then in the future helping others.


Cheers for any help or advice you can provide.


chuckachup
 
Old 12-08-2015, 08:00 PM   #2
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Wink

Thanks to all the viewers - 85! that haven't offered any advice, should I just get a library card
 
Old 12-08-2015, 08:24 PM   #3
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Actually the problem is that this is a specific piece of SW and you probably need someone with similar experience.
They may well come along in a while.
This particular qn may(?) be better off in the Software Forum - you can find out by contacting the Moderators via the Report button (bottom right).

In the meantime I can say that 'apt-get' (not get-apt) is the package mgr system, but it can only manage things that have been installed via the mgr.
If you installed WordBiz via some other method, then it cannot help (directly).
Also, you said 'wordbiz.jar' and jar = java archive; this is not a tar file related file, nor an apt-get pkg file (afaik).


Sorry I couldn't be more help this time, but Welcome to LQ anyway
 
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Old 12-08-2015, 09:43 PM   #4
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Thanks Chris a reply!, yeh I am just sure that some people might know stuff like better ways to get rid of the folders that I can see... different methods of uninstalling... any extra knowledge or understanding might be useful at this stage.

Thanks very much about the get-apt. I do copy these things correctly at the time then I forget. Right so that is just part of the package manager or whatever... making sense, making sense.

The scrabble site lets you download the tarz thing and then you run something like

java jar-wordbiz.jar

from within the folder with the tarz thing
and then it magically installs itself. Just... not in a useable or lovely way right now.

You WERE helpful and friendly! This is so nice. hehe whistle a jig towards Mascot in Sydney for me, my new neice was born there last week He said he was going to name her Awki but I hope he was joking
 
Old 12-08-2015, 09:45 PM   #5
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I might keep the thread in here for a bit longer, might learn things so I can explain myself better with the right syntax in SW forum
 
Old 12-09-2015, 01:56 AM   #6
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Glad to help.

Yeah, just leave it open for a bit.
You'll probably get more comments when Europe & then the US comes online.


Just to be pedantic for a sec; its apt-get not get-apt and as above its a jar file which is not a tar (anything).
This is important; the devil is in the details, so try your best to be absolutely accurate as much as possible.

I'd also point out that people are going to ask exactly what cmd etc you typed in.
If you run the 'history' cmd, it'll show you that stuff. Please post the cmds inside CODE tags - see https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...do=bbcode#code for how to do that.

Congrats on the niece
 
Old 12-09-2015, 11:05 AM   #7
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...it was

java -jar wordbiz.jar

once you'd navigated to the unzipped wordbiz directory.
 
Old 12-09-2015, 05:58 PM   #8
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I thought it might be something like that.
I'm not a java guy so I'll pass ....

I would advise asking the Moderators via the Report button to edit the title of this thread to be more meaningful/informative (they'll figure out a good one for you) - you'll catch more people's eyes that way.
They may even move it to the Software Forum.

Good luck
 
  


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