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BURRAMUR 06-22-2012 01:54 PM

the run-around
 
Using gksu in the terminal, i find myself handicapped by Ubuntu operating through my Zorin Rc 6
distro to prevent me from doing many things I used to
be able to do in the past. Now, I cannot move virtual
machines from my externa storage device. I cannot any
longer make successful installations in wine without
getting instantaneous apologizes from the source, Mr.
Ubuntu about why it is so. Today, using Mr. Synaptic,
and gksu in the terminal, I could not achieve success
in adding screensavers to my Compaq 6510b laptop.
Ubuntu is beginning to look alot like microsoft.
This is my opinion. I do not like my computer operating
privelleges being taken away from me in the name of
public hysteria about security.
Nevertheless, Iam asking if any helpful person
knows away todeal with these issues. I would be most
appreciative.

Didier Spaier 06-22-2012 03:08 PM

Slackware don't prevent me to do anything ;)

unSpawn 06-22-2012 03:08 PM

Given your previous threads I'd say you should feel free to install a Linux distribution that suits your needs.

BURRAMUR 06-23-2012 12:09 AM

Based on the two responses to my thread, I have obviously failed in my attempt to
make my point understood. Limiting access to the functioning of one's own computer
is a painful inconvenience and a form of blatant disrespect. The needs of a
software purveyor may be served.
I installed Zorin OS because I happen to like many things about its design.
I did not intentionally seek out Ubuntu. Until very recently, I was oblivious to
its presence. Now, many software items are branded with Ubuntu and many software
items have x's in red circles - I find this dismal, scary and unpleasant.
I have several computers at my command, plus several virtual box installations
that I use for different reasons. Many linux people use different distros.
In a half year's time I have seen several of my computer privelleges go
kaput. The quality of my life has been lowered. It is unreasonable and smug
to imply that billions of people out there should be expected to master the complexities of Slackware to escape being treated as morons by on the make,
selfserving software companies. That i my understanding of what choice should be
about.

fogpipe 06-23-2012 01:36 AM

You know, if you are that fed up, and i know where you are coming from, i was on a distro hopping phase myself recently, my advice would be to try slackware. Its the most pristine, un-messed with linux distro i have found and unlike some others i have tried, is imo worth the effort to set it up. Your reward for that effort will be a stable environment where the norm is that things "just work".

My opinion of slackware, based on looking at a few supposedly more "user-friendly" distros is that it is actually simpler and easier to use than many of them and has fewer distro specific quirks, than any other distro i have tried.

One of the real surprises for me with slackware was that after installing 13.37 and upgrading to current and doing weekly checks for new upgrades for the past few weeks, nothing so far broke. Major upgrades like gcc and new libs and a new xserver and no problems associated with those upgrades. I cant think of any other linux distro that i can say that about in about 15 years of linux use.

If you are put off by slackwares reputation (i was myself) i think you will be pleasantly surprised with its usability, stability and configurability.

unSpawn 06-23-2012 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BURRAMUR (Post 4709532)
the run-around (..) handicapped (..) look alot like microsoft. (..) public hysteria (..) painful inconvenience (..) blatant disrespect. (..) dismal, scary and unpleasant. (..) The quality of my life has been lowered. (..) unreasonable and smug (..) being treated as morons (..) on the make, selfserving (..)

No, by choosing such a thread title, using intently derogatory phrasing and ranting in excess of 300 words just to ask for help you've shown perfectly how well-informed you are and how much respect you have for your Linux distribution of choice. If you bought Zorin Ultimate you are entitled to their support but if you didn't then they don't owe you anything. Help can be had at LQ but you better ditch the ranting and be specific: post log excerpts, error messages and anything else we can actually do something with.

brianL 06-23-2012 08:38 AM

I thought you would use gksudo, not gksu, with Ubuntu and its derivatives?

suicidaleggroll 06-23-2012 09:40 AM

If you hate Ubuntu so much, then move to something else. A lot of us dislike Ubuntu and its derivatives as well, for many of the same reasons, which is why we don't use them.

Ubuntu is not for everyone, and clearly it's not for you, so use something else.

DavidMcCann 06-23-2012 11:41 AM

ZorinOS is one man's adaptation of Ubuntu. That sort of thing is always going to be a bit hit or miss, because Mr Zorin depends on you to do his testing! Version 5 was good, version 6 was an endless struggle when I tested it last week.

I'd take the Slackers' enthusiasm with a bit of skepticism, but I've got the user-friendly adaptation — Salix — and it always behaves perfectly. And if you're not happy about the way something works, you can actually talk to the developers. Even if they don't accept your suggestions, at least they listen and tell you why.


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