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Old 02-07-2004, 04:46 PM   #16
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Well, I took the plunge and, to keep the analogy going, am drowning.

I hand-compiled 2.6.2 but my system was running off my EIDE drives when I wanted it to use my SATA drive for my /boot, swap and /. The machine was doing well, froze a couple times (not sure why, BUS problem, methinks). VERY close to ideal, I probably should have stopped here. But, it could be faster by using my SATA drive instead of the IDEs.

So, then I tried, for the sake of performance, moving / (root) from /dev/hda to /dev/sda via a fresh install using the new 9.0 patch CD ISO. Well, the ISO loads nicely, I downloaded super-fast from a mirror and voila -- the mkinitrd didn't seem to add in the ata_via driver and now I can't boot root: NOT COOL. So, the system I had is even unreachable at this point. GRUB got hosed and I'm somewhow missing drivers!

I'm not going to stop fighting with this until I get 2.6.2 + x86_64 SMP + nvidia + broadcom gb eth0 + SATA as / working correctly.

Lemme' know if you have any nifty ideas on how to achieve this task.


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Old 02-08-2004, 10:13 AM   #17
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I recommend start imaging your partitions to have a known working setup to go back to.
I am currently downloading Partimage systemrescueCD iso and knoppix.v33-2003-11-19-EN.iso. I am doing this because Ghost and Drive image that I use with winxp won't do an adequate job with Suse 9.0 partitions. I read somewhere that a guy copied his linux partitions to a win patrtition and was able to use both but this adds a number of steps to image a partition and recover -- beats nothing I guess
Will burn these to cd and try them out on my laptop, but my current project is to get my newly arrived mobile barton 2500+ installed and overclocked in my desktop 8rda+.
You may want to google for x86-64 patchkit for the 2.6.0 linux kernel, but you may be way past that already.
Also go here: and click on mailinglists quicklink, then amd-64. There's lots of info/help there.
Lastly, the AMD-64 expert is: Andreas Jaeger,,,
SuSE Linux AG, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany. I'd contact him via the Suse mailinglists and we then can all read the solution!
Hope this helps,
Old 02-08-2004, 02:40 PM   #18
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Thanks. I joined the list today. I also purchased the 64-bit version. I like SuSe too much now not to throw a bit of support ($) their way, even if it's minimally just one purchase.

I'm gonna' give this another shot before I get on the horn with someone from support.

I still don't understand why I get the root= problem with kernel panic when trying to boot from SATA. Since the drive doesn't show up in dmesg/boot.msg, I'm assuming the needed ata_via driver wasn't packaged properly into initrd.

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Old 02-10-2004, 03:18 AM   #19
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Tyan's SATA Drivers for 64Bit Redhat & SUSE are here

This problem plagued me for several weeks, and after reading some of the posts here I am obviously not the only one.. and since this site has been such a valuable resource to me in the past, I thought that I would contribute something back.

If you would like to use the new SATA drives, with or without Raid, on RedHat or SUSE, then maybe this will be of help to you.

I purchased a Tyan K8W S2885 (which supports 2 Opterons, 16Gb ECC DDR @ 400Mhz, and has on-board Serial ATA Raid support with 4 ports), and the drivers were finally released for the following OS's.

Redhat 7.x, 8.0, and 9.0 32Bit
RedHat 3.0 Enterprise 64Bit AMD64
SUSE 8.2 32Bit
SUSE 9.0 64Bit AMD64

If you have this board already, the drivers are on the Tyan site here: (bottom of the page).

As far as the performance of these SATA drives, let me tell you what I have found... our network is all Dual Xeon with U320 SCSI, and we run a very large database (hundreds of millions of records being accessed and manipulated constantly). When I got my new Opteron system with IDE drives, I tried working with that same database at home.. and I literrally killed 3 separate IDE drives in less than a month (clunk, clunk, clunk).. now I have been running the same SATA Raid 0 stripe for 3 weeks at full speed.. and it runs even faster than the 15Krpm U320's we use on the network (although they are Raid 5).. and I have had no problems whatsoever. For a workstation/home pc.. this opteron runs like a dream, and AMD has really blown Intel away for the money.

If you want a low cost way to get better disk performance, go with the SATA drives.. but be sure that the drivers are available for your controller before you spend the money. I don't know about the MSI or ASUS boards, but I think there are a few less expensive Tyan boards with onboard SATA & drivers available. The 2885 is a bit expensive for some budgets, but well worth the investment if you can swing it.

And FYI, RedHat support told me that my SATA Seagate Barracuda's would not work with any version of their OS... They seem to be working just fine now .

I hope that some of you find this information helpful...

Old 02-23-2004, 05:29 PM   #20
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Nice post with that link.
Too bad the driver only works for the booted kernel from CD (Suse).
I believe it is 2.4.21-144-default.
I am unable in any way to get it working with other kernel versions.
I have also a Tyan 2885 with silicon image 3114 using dual opteron and Suse installed 2.4.21-166-smp (i think) from ftp..
Does any1 know how to force a wrong module?
Note: @Suse mkinitrd man page I spotted no -f option.

I also tried the new Suse boot-image which supports SATA drivers.
That's all it does, again no RAID.
Considering that my Promise 376 is also not working with the supplied driver from promise I got 1 conclusion:
Linux RAID support way SUCKS!
I really hate to say that on my favourite OS.
Anyone who knows how to use the forces on this globe to get all those ass-software on chip cheapass RAID chips to work on Linux please help!
Old 04-06-2004, 05:02 PM   #21
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suse x86_64 ftp

Switch off the "usb legacy support" in the bios will help in the first instance, try acpi disabled in the installation setup, etc or safe install. Have had 64 bit version running using those routes, but no internet access due to the following:-

SuSE Meta pppd (smpppd-ifcfg), Version 1.06 on linux.
Status is: disconnected
trying to connect to smpppd
connect to smpppd
Status is: disconnected
Status is: connecting
pppd[0]: Plugin loaded.
pppd[0]: PPPoATM plugin_init
pppd[0]: Plugin loaded.
pppd[0]: PPPoATM setdevname - remove unwanted options
pppd[0]: PPPoATM setdevname_pppoatm - SUCCESS:0.38
pppd[0]: failed to create socket: Address family not supported by protocol
Status is: disconnected
pppd[0] died: Fatal pppd error (exit code 1)

So have had to reload the 32bit version to get Internet access back to try and sort out the above problem.
It gets stupid in that I have a 64 bit processor which runs the Suse 9.0 Pro 32 bit straight off, but will not run Suse Pro 64 bit, which it was written for it.
Old 04-06-2004, 05:36 PM   #22
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Is this the wrong post? I don't see any relation to getting Raid to work? FYI I don't have any further installation problems. I can probably set everything up, using a normal drive. But I WANT RAID 1 !

Tried gentoo and some forums too. If do not have a working Raid 1 on any distro, I stop using it probably. Strange thing is , that I have never had any trouble getting other stuff to work with a decent search, but this is just terrible.

Still waiting for a howto or golden tip that does the trick. I hope I remember this post if I find it out. Now my hope is on Suse 9.1
Old 04-09-2004, 02:52 PM   #23
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Talking sata with suse 9 on msi neo fis2r

Suse 9.0 does not appear to recognise the promise sata drivers included or the drivers from their website. The solution lay in the fact that this particular motherboard has a promise sata controller and also a via sata controller. Simply move the sata hdd from the promise controller to the via controller.

Quick how to - this is from how I got miy system up. Simply moving the hdd will probably solve the problem. If this does not work this is what I did.

Have the HDD on the promise controller
Boot linux from cd/dvd
Start install until SUSE can't see HDD
Abort install
Load the kernel driver - select hdd driver (I think) for the promise 150 sata.
Then restart installation and the hdd will be seen
Then install as normal.
When you reboot you will get an Kernel Panic.
This is where I shut down and swapped the cable to the via.
All works

Hope this Helps



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