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Old 04-30-2005, 11:15 PM   #1
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SuSE and dual boot


Hello everyone,

I am still new to linux but I do have some basic Unix knowledge. I just built a computer that I want to be my workstation for 3D graphics. Here are the specs:

Pentium IV 630 3.0Ghz 800mhz FSB 2mb cache
1 GB DDR2 Ram
nVidia Quadro FX 540
200GB SATA Drive
160GB SATA mirrored RAID

I want to dual boot XP Pro with Linux. I installed XP ok. Then I installed SuSE 9.3. Everything appeared to be ok, as GRUB allowed me to choose which operating system to boot. I did get SuSE to boot into xwindows.

Unfortunately, SuSE would not recognize my mouse (neither PS2 nor USB). It asked me if I wanted to configure things like the video card, sound card, keyboard, mouse, etc, which I allowed it to do via the keyboard but it still would not see the mouse.

Really unfortunately, after I restarted after all that configuration, xwindows will not start. In the safe mode shell typing "startx" yeilds a black screen with an x in the center. I tried installing the nVidia driver, thinking that was the problem, but it told me something to the affect of not being able to find the utility "cc".

Grub will boot XP great, and the SuSE shell launches perfectly too, but for some reason, when I choose SuSE Linux on grub I get a black screen with a couple pixels lit up as blue at the top of the screen. My monitor shows a video signal, but it seems to just hang there.

It may be that it needs the just needs the driver, as was the problem I had tying to install Red Hat 9. I downloaded the driver onto my windows machine and burned it to a disk, so that is where I'm running it from.

If anyone has any tips for me I would greatly appreciate it as I feel like I'm stuck. I don't think it's that bad if the shell works, but I just don't know enough about Linux to troubleshoot the problem.

Thank you
 
Old 04-30-2005, 11:31 PM   #2
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Hmm... odd problem indeed... most video cards work alright with the default driver, but who knows... I'm assuming you can login to a single user shell (type "linux 1" at the grub prompt). This will ask you to log in as root, type

cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -v '#'

Put that output in the thread to give us something to work with, paying particular attention to the Monitor and Screen sections.
 
Old 05-01-2005, 01:08 AM   #3
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Thank you pokemaster for your reply.

After I typed "linux 1" it started like it was going to start the graphical interface, only the shell was on top (I'm not sure if that was what was supposed to happen) It looked alot like OSX when it crashes, if you're familiar with that. Anyway I was able to log in and type that command, although I feel like an idiot because it spewed out a bunch of pages of information and I can't figure out how to scroll up to get to the initial output. I opened the file in vi through the shell to at least move around in it, and this is what it said, excluding Section "Files" section as that was really long (I can post that too if you'd like):

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "dbe"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "extmod"
Load "glx"
Load "v41"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "kbd"
Identifier "Keyboard[0]"
Option "Protocol" "Standard"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
Option "XkbMode1" "pc104"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "mouse"
Identifier "Mouse[1]"
Option "AutoSoft" "on"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "on"
Option "Name" "x (here there is an symbol that looks like a ">" only it is pointing up)[D@x(another up ">")[D@"
Option "Protocol" "Auto"
Option "Vendor" "Sysp"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
DisplaySize 340 270
HorizSync 28-64
Identifier "Monitor[0]"
ModelName "1280X1024@60HZ"
Option "DPMS"
VendorName "--> VESA"
VertRefresh 50-60
UseModes "Modes[0]"
EndSection

Section "Modes"
Identifier "Modes[0]"
Modeline "1280x1024" 105.15 1280 1360 1496 1712 1024 1025 1028 1059
Modeline "640x480" 23.06 640 656 720 800 480 481 484 497
Modeline "1280x1024" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
EndSection

Section "Screen"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1280x1024"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1280x1024"
EndSubSection
Device "Device[0]"
Identifier "Screen[0]"
Monitor "Monitor[0]"
EndSection

Section "Device"
BoardName "Quadro FX 540"
BusID "4:0:0"
Driver "nv"
Identifier "Device[0]"
VendorName "NVidia"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifer "Layout[all]"
InputDevice "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
Option "Clone" "off"
Option "Xinerama" "off"
Screen "Screen[0]"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Group "video"
Mode 0660
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
EndSection

Hope that helps. Thanks again for your help!!
 
Old 05-01-2005, 12:47 PM   #4
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Rest easy, that 'shell on top of the gui' was exactly what was supposed to happen. Single user mode gives you a root console where you can do whatever to fix the machine when the gui fails on you.

Quote:
here there is an symbol that looks like a ">"
That's the caret '^' above the number 6 on your keyboard.
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it spewed out a bunch of pages of information and I can't figure out how to scroll up to get to the initial output
all you have to do is pipe the output to the program 'less', like this:

cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -v '#' | less

the vertical bar (located above the slash, which is (probably) above your Enter key) is called a pipe. It sends output of program 1 to the input of program 2.

lol, now that the quick lesson is done, let's try to fix your screen issue. It's a good sign that the console at least came up, it means that your issue is most likely within xorg. Try running

xorgsetup

from single user mode (login like you did last time), and it should detect your screen and setup the xorg.conf file, back to basics. For most monitors, mice, and keyboards, these settings will work fine, then if you need advanced features you can mess around later.

As always, good luck!
 
Old 05-01-2005, 11:49 PM   #5
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Oh man, now I feel like an idiot!! I can't believe I missed that caret character!! Shows you how much I use it!

Thank you for your great reply. Unfortunately, when I log in and type "xorgsetup", it says command not found. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, so here's what I did:

At grub, I typed "linux 1", which got me to the single user shell mode.
I logged in, which brought me to the prompt.
I typed "xorgsetup", to which it replied, "command not found"

I'm sure this is a simple thing that I'm screwing up somehow, so hopefully the step by step that I gave will reveal the error. Thanks again for all your help, I am learning!
 
Old 05-02-2005, 01:36 AM   #6
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I've been playing around with launching linux from GRUB, which usually just gave me a black screen. Now pretty reliably it looks as if it is starting xwindows. It gives me the screen saying that it is initializing hardware, starting system, starting devices, starting services...

then the screen goes black, i see a little clock, then the clock turns into a mouse pointer, which seems like everything's ok.

but the problem is it hangs here. I cannot control the mouse pointer, and it never brings me into the OS environment. It just stays black with a mouse pointer in the center of the screen.
 
Old 05-02-2005, 02:50 PM   #7
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let me just make sure of a couple of things.

1) you're logging in as root in the single user mode right?
2) try just typing xorg at the prompt, then hit tab a coupla times, see what it suggests... try out xorgconfig, xorgcfg, something like that


Like I said, seems like an odd problem, not one I've experienced
 
Old 05-03-2005, 01:13 AM   #8
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I keep getting command not found on all of those. I am in as root, as there is no other user set up. I did find a command called xterm, which says the DISPLAY is not set up. This is something the OS was trying to configure the last time I was in the environment. Maybe a setting was set wrong and is causing this problem. I should also mention I have an LCD monitor (Dell 1905FP). Should the xorg.conf file be set as "--> LCD" instead of "--> VESA"??

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