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Old 08-02-2008, 10:28 PM   #1
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suse 11 no boot

i just installed suse 11.0 onto a dell 3100 dimension w/ a pentium 4... i'm wondering why after installation, the system doesn't boot, it just goes into a black screen.

when install is finished, suse says reboot to continue installation and it doesn't reboot, just a black screen.

can someone help me to resolve this? i'm on an ubuntu live disc at the moment.

i had the same problem with fedora 9 and mandriva 2008. but i've had no problems with ubuntu 8.04 LTS

my windows OS disc also doesn't boot from disc anymore.

is there a tool or something available to see if i have a rootkit or something?

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Old 08-03-2008, 02:28 AM   #2
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My first impression is that it is problem with you,re monitor or graphic card .
So give us the spec of the monitor and graphic card and it the graphic card is on board
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Does the computer go through post? Do you get a grub menu at first? I'm not certain from your description whether you can even start the boot process or whether you have a video problem.

If you don't even get a grub menu, then the installation of grub may have failed. When you start to boot up with you live distro disk, get into the grub shell instead. From there, you can use tab completion to enter in the kernel and initrd lines, and then try to boot.

The lines you enter should look something like this:
kernel (hd0,5)/boot/vmlinuz- 
initrd (hd0,5)/boot/initrd-
Your kernel version may vary, the partition (e.g (hd0,5) ) will probably be different. You can start out entering (hd and press the tab key to discover which drives you have. Then enter one of them, a comma and press the tab key again. You will be presented with the partitions it found. Try each one if you don't know which it is until you find either the directories of a root partition, or the contents of a /boot partition. It depends on whether you have a partition for /boot or if it is a directory. If it is a directory, you can continue entering as much as you know and pressing tab to discover the rest.
This may enable you to manually boot into suse when the MBR is messed up.
If you did start booting before but the screen went blank:
From your live disk, mount the root partition. Look at the /var/log/boot.msg, /var/log/boot.log, /var/log/messages, /var/log/Xorg.0.log log files. Check where the boot process stopped. If it is a video problem, errors show up on lines beginning with (EE).

Suppose you have a video card driver problem. You could edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and use the "vesa" generic driver. If you have an nvidia card, you can use the non-accelerated "nv" driver. Hopefully after rebooting you will get at least console video.

Blank video can have a three causes. A) Monitor select was wrong so the vert and horiz refresh are off. B) wrong driver. C) Modelines are wrong.
Selecting a generic driver, you can then concentrate on selecting the correct monitor in "sax2". If you have a monitor with odd dimentions, you could use the "gtf" program to generate modelines you can use. However this probably won't be the case until you get farther along.
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the graphics card is a radeon 9250 Sapphire 256RAM
and i don't know the specs on the can I Check that?
the maximum resolution i've achieved is like as close to 2000X2000 as windows will get. i don't know what the problem was...KEY WORD WAS, but I opted against suse for now, I'm going to compile LFS but I didn't get the grub menu, all i got was a black screen. I asked about kde 4 because it is "experimental" according to the reading i've been doing so I figured it was a video problem, but there was no grub to pass options to in order to rectify it, so i'll have to specifically identify the problem before install. i tried to reinstall twice, and even tried to install inside windows, all of these failed and inside windows wasn't a menu option. i'm a linux noob so a lot of times where i know what you guys are saying because i've read the books, i get lost so i'll stick with ubuntu as a back linux system whiel i compile LFS, but thanksfor your replie.

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If you don't get a grub boot menu then your mbr may be bad. You will need to boot up in the rescue mode or a live distro to fix it. See if you can boot up with a live distro or the install disk, and from the grub shell, locate the
/boot/grub/menu.lst file. If so, then you may be able to load it and boot. The main difference is that you are loading grub from the CDROM instead of the hard drive.

IMHO, A newbie starting with LFS is like learning to swim by cliff diving.

Which motherboard do you have. If it is Foxconn, then you might have more problems ahead. On my new laptop, I can't boot up if I have a flash card plugged in the mmc reader. On my old laptop, and my current desktop, I've had the computer stall just after post intermittently. This occurs before the grub menu and I can't boot Linux or XP when it happens. The solution is to unplug the usb external drives, then they boot up.

SuSE does seem to have a problem getting the video right using the non-propriety drivers (for nvidia on my computers). I always need to download the NVidia installer and run it. If you do decide to stay with SuSE and get it to boot, in YaST2 -> inst_source -> Community Repositories, you can add the ATI and Packman repos to make installing a video driver & media applications easier. Linux support for ATI has been flaky in the past but they are getting better since AMD bought them.

SuSE does have a repair function which may work for you.

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