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Old 03-18-2012, 01:34 PM   #16
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Just need a SATA cable so perhaps I will steal it from this PC
Cool! I'd like to know what's what too...

Edging to the edge of my seat...

Burning Macpup 5.28 here to try it out for myself...

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Did you check the IP address of the Macpup??? Try "ifconfig" in the console...chances are the IP's are out of sight!

Thor

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Old 03-19-2012, 10:03 AM   #17
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Cool! I'd like to know what's what too...
I fired up old PC #2 and macpup comes up just fine, connected to the Internet. Same router, same physical wire in fact--I only have one cable for this desk. No idea why the other one fails.

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Did you check the IP address of the Macpup??? Try "ifconfig" in the console...chances are the IP's are out of sight!

Thor
I didn't see this edit before. I will try soon I hope.

Thanks
 
Old 03-20-2012, 11:26 AM   #18
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And, hey, I've set up a print server on Arch...how hard can that be??? Need help on that? Ask away, that's what this place is for...
I researched my Xerox Phaser 3117 a bit when it didn't run "automatically" on the macpup and found it needs splix. Didn't want to install macpup yet, but I figured I would give my Arch box a shot as the printing PC.

Took 6 minutes and it works perfectly. Installed cups (et al) and libusb and then splix and that was about it.

Thanks for the encouragement! Was easier than I thought. Well I did try once before and got nowhere, but that was a few years ago I think.

As far as my wife's PC, macpup is a no go. She wants a task bar like Xfce or fbpanel. Also the fonts are not clear on her screen, at least out of the box.

But due to this thread, I remembered that Arch has some derivatives, so I gave her ArchBang and I think we're set for now.

In a month two when I need to scan again, I will work on setting up my Epson 7330GT-U (needs epkowa) on my Arch box.

Thanks for all the responses guys!
 
Old 03-20-2012, 01:47 PM   #19
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But due to this thread, I remembered that Arch has some derivatives, so I gave her ArchBang and I think we're set for now.
Actually, you may not even have to go there...install Arch...and then opt to install XFCE the first time round. Since you're an Arch user, that should not be a problem.
I have just finished and install here, straight from the prompt to XFCE...never mind the derivatives...

I suggest using a redundant/older PC as dedicated print/backup/media server - Arch does all that and more

Glad there was some music in the end!

Thor
 
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Old 03-20-2012, 01:54 PM   #20
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Actually, you may not even have to go there...install Arch...and then opt to install XFCE the first time round. Since you're an Arch user, that should not be a problem.
I have just finished and install here, straight from the prompt to XFCE...never mind the derivatives...
Yes I suppose that would also work. In retrospect the hard things about my setup are probably LAMP and jEdit and lots of personal tweaks I am used to in software etc.


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Glad there was some music in the end!
Me too.
 
Old 03-21-2012, 02:42 PM   #21
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Glad there was some music in the end!
Well, not really, as it turns out. I wanted to add LibreOffice and upgrade things on my ArchBang and so I updated all packages and installed LibreOffice. I rebooted and X didn't pick up my mouse and keyboard. I couldn't think of how to fix that, because I can't even login. So I figured I will install vanilla Arch fresh myself.

I did and at first it was fine. Then I lost my network connection. Posted my woes about that here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi....php?p=4632790

I'm tempted to try another distro now, heh heh.
 
Old 03-21-2012, 03:46 PM   #22
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Have you installed the input packages? Had this very thing/behaviour too...

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pacman -S xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-evdev
I gather the whole thing DOES work in CLI...

Form the site:

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Udev should be capable of detecting your hardware without problems and evdev (xf86-input-evdev) is the modern, hotplugging input driver for almost all devices so in most cases, installing input drivers is not needed. At this point, evdev has already been installed as a dependency of Xorg.
... with "should" as buzzword...well, this goes to prove you cannot believe everything you read...

As far as the networking goes:
I can only suggest (strongly I might add) to NOT go with the DHCP options and fill out ALL the blanks. I think you inserted eth0 - the default anyway - and threw the system off track so it went "south for the winter"...try to fill out all the blanks...

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I'm tempted to try another distro now, heh heh.
Well, Linux is like a kid's paper round, it "builds character" - whatever that means. Then again, the triumph of having "won the mountain"...then again...

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So I figured I will install vanilla Arch fresh myself.
...this could simply be the best option of all...

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Old 03-21-2012, 04:02 PM   #23
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> Have you installed the input packages?

No because it WORKED initially.

> I gather the whole thing DOES work in CLI...

Didn't know how to get to a CLI in ArchBang. I anyway trashed that install.

> it went "south for the winter"...try to fill out all the blanks...

But my router is DHCP and I think it's supposed to be blank. All using eth0 and all blanks WORKS for my other PC and WORKED on this very PC with Arch 32 bit previously.

> "builds character" ... "won the mountain"

My wife just wants to read Facebook and I want to go back to work. lol

Thanks however.
 
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My wife just wants to read Facebook and I want to go back to work. lol
Well, you just summed up the esscence of marriage I guess...

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Didn't know how to get to a CLI
At any time any one install misbehaves, I boot up with a liveCD (Knoppix comes to mind), edit the /etc/inittab to start the whole bizz in text-only, and the /etc/rc.conf to NOT start up GDM (or whatever you use as graphical login manager) by preceding it with an exclamation mark

(in the daemons section all the way down)

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...,GDM,...
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...,!GDM,...
But...if it has to be quick, and you do not mind getting aquainted with something else, Xubuntu (XFCE) or Debian both pop in the picture...

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Old 03-22-2012, 12:33 PM   #25
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Debian works perfectly for me, out of the box.

In retrospect maybe a net install (as opposed to CD then upgrade) of Arch would also work, but anyhow, she has Yahoo mail and Facebook and Youtube and chocolate cookies and coffee and she can sit her fat ____ in front of her screen and waste away her life doing basically nothing.

Yep, marital bliss.

lol
 
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Yep, marital bliss.
Congratzz! Now you're free to roam around...without the leash

Anyway, glad I could provide a road sign!

See ya around!

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Old 03-22-2012, 01:36 PM   #27
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Anyway, glad I could provide a road sign!
Yes, Debian is pretty cool. I used to play with it (and Ubuntu) a lot some years ago so I remember it. But the installer GUI is great and it boots up with Firefox and OpenOffice ready to go. I browse to youtube and the video plays and I hear sound.

Everything just works.

Installed Xfce and it also "just works."

Pretty slick....
 
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Pretty slick....
Goes to prove there's a Linux for everyone. I have delved into Fedora-Debian-Ubuntu and now Arch, Linux from Scratch could be next. It's all just what you want to achieve. By the way, might I suggest to steer away from Gnome3? As your wife's system seems somewhat dated, the "demands" put by Gnome3 may not be part of the equasion anymore. This was the main reason for me to make the move to Xfce, because I was stuck in fallback Gnome3...

Eh, just enjoy...I'd say.

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Old 03-22-2012, 01:59 PM   #29
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might I suggest to steer away from Gnome3?
Why? Everyone likes to vomit on occasion, no?

I would have made her default Xfce if Debian came with Gnome3. But Gnome 2 is quite nice on Debian--more fun for her than Xfce I think.
 
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But Gnome 2 is quite nice
On any desktop, I loved the thing...but they've stopped it on Arch...

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I dont, I have to clean up afterwards...
Gnome3 is gorgeous if you like a tablet-like experience on the desktop, and if your system allows it (3d accelleration required) - why not...but I'm more into "my icons" on a desktop in a more classical setting...
 
  


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