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i got so anoyed last night with it i took the windows way out. I reinstalled the system. Gave me the chance to use new found knowlege to make a better install with better settings. Thanks with all the help. i think i'm going to learn a little more about the terminal as i felt like a big hairy newbie trying fix the problem. At least if another poor foolish soul tries to get rid of their graphics desktop they can find help in your advice.
thanks for all the help,
david
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