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Old 09-25-2004, 02:19 PM   #31
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sure...


In a nutshell, yes. If there's nothing important on the 15GB partition, you can use you paritition managing program to delete it and make new linux partitions. Once you get some space on there, you can make a swap and root partition, and maybe some other partitions for other things like /home and /var and install from there. I can't really give you a step by step install for Mandrake since I don't use that distribution. Having 15GB is nice, since a default install for most major linux distributions of EVERYTHING can range anywhere from one to three GB.
 
Old 09-25-2004, 05:22 PM   #32
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Have no important stuff on that 15GB drive. But what would happen if the folder called 'System Volume Information' gets deleted? Or the 'W2KBack' folder?

Thats my main concern. Otherwise I keep everything archived on CDs.

But once I delete the 15GB drive., should I use the free space on the (C) drive?

But its my fault for crying out loud because he asked me if I wanted the drive split and I said yes


So, if I remove the 15GB drive then I should install it on the free space thats left on the C drive, right???

You were explaining on how to create Linux partitions. I understand on how to that. But the problem is, Im not familiar on how to install Linux on a split drive.
 
Old 09-25-2004, 08:36 PM   #33
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It's not any different

There's nothing different about setting up a 'split' disk in linux. Chances are, you're 'splitting' the disk anyway when you install your linux distribution, even if you just make one swap partition and one root partition. This is what I can tell you about your system without knowing anything more about it.

1) You have two drives that show up in Windows, C and D
2) It's a 40GB HDD
3) One partition is 25, one is 15
4) I'm assuming the 25GB partition is where Windows is installed
5) The 15GB partition doesn't have anything on it but some crap that Windows puts in there

Without knowing exactly what type of set up you have for your disk controllers, and assuming it's not a SCSI disk, and you're not running a raid controller (highly unlikely come to think about it), your partition info as it would come up in a linux based partition manager would look something like this:

/dev/hda1 25GB NTFS
/dev/dha2 15GB NTFS

That information that is in your D drive is probably nothing. To be sure, you can copy it to your C drive, and use Disk Management to delete the 15GB partition, so Windows won't have a fit when you boot up and it's expecting to see a disk in that area. You should also go in to Folder Options to turn on showing hidden files and directories if you're extra paranoid. Plus, if you're a windows user, you should turn OFF hide extensions of known file types while you're digging in there.

After you do that, fire up your linux install disk. Mandrake should be pretty good at recognizing you have an NTFS partition and set up support for it and do all that other good stuff when it finds the empty partition.

Honestly, if you have the cash, just buy another computer to install linux to if you want to experiment with it. It's more convenient, then you don't have to bother setting up all that dual boot business. Don't get me wrong, I've set up a dual boot system (even tri-boot, slackware-DOS 6.2-Win 98SE), and I've run in to the same problems you are, and got it working. In the end, it was just annoying to reboot my machine if I wanted to do any REAL work. And by real work, I mean boot in to linux.
 
Old 09-26-2004, 07:03 AM   #34
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Im not familiar on how to install Linux on a split drive.
It's pretty simple really, during the Mandrake install, IIRC, you choose the custom install option and during the partition drive section, just delete the 15GB partition and let Mandrake set it up how it likes. Basically, if you just want to muck around with it for a while, just create a "/" partition and a swap partition.

Put the bootloader in the MBR of the hard drive. It'll detect Windows and add a boot menu entry for it. I must have done this a dozen times and never had a problem (unless you're running a raid array or something like d0odman suggested).

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Old 09-26-2004, 09:26 AM   #35
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Thanks alot. And Im sure I will add this info to my Linux notes.

So, what I'll do nextime Im there in Europe, is I will copy and paste the folders that are in the D Drive and put them in the C Drive and I will go into Disk Manage and delete that 15GB D Drive and install Linux on the free space that I have in the C Drive. Thats it.

Please correct me if Im wrong what I just wrote down.

And the comment that you made about having another PC to mess around with??? I TOTATLY 100% AGREE. Newbies like myself should have an old PC and to install Linux on that to practice on. Not just Linux but also the BSDs too. I agree 100%.

Thank

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Old 09-26-2004, 09:30 AM   #36
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That's pretty much right. You can either delete the partition in Windows, or in the Mandrake install itself, but at least if you do it in Windows, it'll know about it.

Baldrick
 
Old 09-26-2004, 12:51 PM   #37
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hey man. get another disk. brake it. and you will have a linux disk.
say this is /dev/hda , and windows is /dev/hdb.

i did it jusdt yesterday
lilo -A /dev/hdb (or hdb1 i dont remember)
then i run lilo
and thats was all
now I have dual boot
 
Old 09-27-2004, 01:44 PM   #38
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So just to confirm here, I should Copy and Paste the folders that I mentioned from the 15GB D-Drive Paste them into the C Drive and then delete the 15GB D Drive and install Linux on the Free Space thats on the C Drive, right?

Yes or no? Just to make sure that Im right on this one more time.

Like again, I want to put this info from this post into my Linux notes.

Thanks again for everyones help on this.

If this were only (1) 40GB non-split drive then no questions are asked. And plus, I already understand on how to create Linux partitions like root, swap, usr and such.
 
Old 09-27-2004, 02:09 PM   #39
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Originally posted by unixfreak
So just to confirm here, I should Copy and Paste the folders that I mentioned from the 15GB D-Drive Paste them into the C Drive and then delete the 15GB D Drive and install Linux on the Free Space thats on the C Drive, right?

Yes or no? Just to make sure that Im right on this one more time.
No, you want to use the unallocated space that was the D drive.
 
Old 09-27-2004, 02:34 PM   #40
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Ok so in other words use the free space that was once the 15GB (D) Drive, right?

If thats correct then I understand.
 
  


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