so lost!

Bullzeye · 08-25-2003, 07:12 PM

Ok here's the backround.......

Mobo ASUS a7n8x
Linux: Debian 3.0

Uname -r 2.2.20-idepci
Boot from floppy

Trying to install my net drivers (nforce chip)

When I make install i get an error "cannot stat 'nvnet.o' : No such file or directory"

So, I uname -r
2.2.20-idepci

then I apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.18

then?

am I on the right track?

fancypiper · 08-25-2003, 07:32 PM

It sounds right (I haven't installed debian, but you need kernel-sources to compile modules).

After it installs, try compiling the module again. You can possibly ignore my comment on needing source to match running kernel. The install guides should clear it up for you.

# Debian links
Installing Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 For Intel x86
The Very Verbose Debian 3.0 Installation Walkthrough
Debian Package Management HOWTO Version 1.1

# Compiling/installing kernel modules
You will need to have installed:
1. The developmental packages (compiler)
2. The kernel source code that matches your running kernel
3. The module source or install code

Check out your system and look under the hood and see if you installed the stuff you need to do the job. Open an x terminal and type in this sequence of commands to see what kernel we are running and see if you have the kernel source installed:

Code:

[fancy@tinwhistle fancy]$ su -
Password: 
[root@tinwhistle root]# uname -r
2.4.18-3

I am running kernel version 2.4.18-3. Do I have the proper source code?

Code:

[root@tinwhistle root]# cd /usr/src
[root@tinwhistle src]# ls -alc
total 3
drwxr-xr-x    4 root     root          136 Jun 12 14:53 .
drwxr-xr-x   16 root     root          424 Jun  4 12:04 ..
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           14 Jun  4 12:11 linux-2.4 -> linux-2.4.18-3
drwxr-xr-x   16 root     root          584 Jun  4 12:11 linux-2.4.18-3
drwxr-xr-x    7 root     root          168 Jun  4 12:08 redhat
[root@tinwhistle src]#

I do have the same kernel version source code installed in the directory /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-3 and there is a symbolic link named linux-2.4 pointing to it.

If you don't see something similiar to this (but in color), you will need to install the kernel source.

NOTE: I noticed that Red Hat didn't make the symbolic link /usr/src/linux that all of the INSTALL files that I have read mentioned that I need, so I may as well make one now to save editing the files in the source code to install.So, I'll make it just now:

Code:

[root@tinwhistle src]# ln -s linux-2.4.18-3 linux         
[root@tinwhistle src]# ls -alc
total 3
drwxr-xr-x    4 root     root          160 Jun 12 15:46 .
drwxr-xr-x   16 root     root          424 Jun  4 12:04 ..
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           14 Jun 12 15:46 linux -> linux-2.4.18-3
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           14 Jun  4 12:11 linux-2.4 -> linux-2.4.18-3
drwxr-xr-x   16 root     root          584 Jun  4 12:11 linux-2.4.18-3
drwxr-xr-x    7 root     root          168 Jun  4 12:08 redhat
[root@tinwhistle src]#

Ah, there it is, so that's done.

Next, did I install the compiler?

Code:

[root@tinwhistle src]# gcc -v          
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/specs
gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-113)
[root@tinwhistle src]#

Yes, I have a compiler installed.

If you don't have those two things installed, you have to install them first off your install CD.

If they are installed, download the source and happy comiling.

Make sure you carefully read the README and INSTALL files after extracting and before compiling/installing.

Bullzeye · 08-26-2003, 09:59 AM

Ok, so here I am 3 days later... no progress

Well, not tru I have gotten the mounting drives down pat

And can edit text

woohoo! But. without net access the os seems useless to me

So, I download the tar.gz from nvidia for my nforce2 chip (burnt to cd) copied it to /usr/local/driver

Then I tar -zxvf NVIDIA_nforce-1.0-0261.tar.gz

then cd nforce
then make install

thats as far as I get.... It errors out saying something about 'nvnet.o' :No such file or directory

grr what am I doing wrong? The readme posted at: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/n..._1.0-0261.html doesnt seem to help much.

I also tried to d/l and run the driver for my gforce2 mx card but ran into a similar problem.

Logged in as root btw

MasterC · 08-26-2003, 12:11 PM

Before you 'make install' you should be typing:
make
To create the driver to 'make install'

Cool

mcd · 08-26-2003, 01:49 PM

out of curiosity, which installs require ./configure first, and why?

MasterC · 08-26-2003, 02:02 PM

Whichever ones include em

It's usually not necessary on smaller applications, but is included in some anyway, it's not really a 'standard'. Usually a README or INSTALL file is accompanied with software, and it will tell you if it requires/includes it or not

Cool

fancypiper · 08-26-2003, 02:30 PM

Required reading for source code installs (gentoo excepted): the README and INSTALL files.

# Guides to software management
LNAG - How do I install a program I downloaded from the Internet?
Rute Guide's software explanation
You might want to check out CheckInstall to manage source code installations/uninstallation

# Compiling/installing kernel modules
You will need to have installed:
1. The developmental packages (compiler)
2. The kernel source code that matches your running kernel
3. The module source or install code

Check out your system and look under the hood and see if you installed the stuff you need to do the job. Open an x terminal and type in this sequence of commands to see what kernel we are running and see if you have the kernel source installed:

Code:

[fancy@tinwhistle fancy]$ su -
Password: 
[root@tinwhistle root]# uname -r
2.4.18-3

I am running kernel version 2.4.18-3. Do I have the proper source code?

Code:

[root@tinwhistle root]# cd /usr/src
[root@tinwhistle src]# ls -alc
total 3
drwxr-xr-x    4 root     root          136 Jun 12 14:53 .
drwxr-xr-x   16 root     root          424 Jun  4 12:04 ..
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           14 Jun  4 12:11 linux-2.4 -> linux-2.4.18-3
drwxr-xr-x   16 root     root          584 Jun  4 12:11 linux-2.4.18-3
drwxr-xr-x    7 root     root          168 Jun  4 12:08 redhat
[root@tinwhistle src]#

I do have the same kernel version source code installed in the directory /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-3 and there is a symbolic link named linux-2.4 pointing to it.

If you don't see something similiar to this (but in color), you will need to install the kernel source.

NOTE: I noticed that Red Hat didn't make the symbolic link /usr/src/linux that all of the INSTALL files that I have read mentioned that I need, so I may as well make one now to save editing the files in the source code to install.So, I'll make it just now:

Code:

[root@tinwhistle src]# ln -s linux-2.4.18-3 linux         
[root@tinwhistle src]# ls -alc
total 3
drwxr-xr-x    4 root     root          160 Jun 12 15:46 .
drwxr-xr-x   16 root     root          424 Jun  4 12:04 ..
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           14 Jun 12 15:46 linux -> linux-2.4.18-3
lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           14 Jun  4 12:11 linux-2.4 -> linux-2.4.18-3
drwxr-xr-x   16 root     root          584 Jun  4 12:11 linux-2.4.18-3
drwxr-xr-x    7 root     root          168 Jun  4 12:08 redhat
[root@tinwhistle src]#

Ah, there it is, so that's done.

Next, did I install the compiler?

Code:

[root@tinwhistle src]# gcc -v          
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/specs
gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-113)
[root@tinwhistle src]#

Yes, I have a compiler installed.

If you don't have those two things installed, you have to install them first off your install CD.

If they are installed, download the source and happy comiling.

Make sure you carefully read the README and INSTALL files after extracting and before compiling/installing.

Bullzeye · 08-26-2003, 08:13 PM

I also get a header error when trying to install the graphic driver....

so, i need to install other stuff? Could this all be done during os install? If so, how?

fancypiper · 08-26-2003, 09:16 PM

Try:

apt-get install kernel-sources

Bullzeye · 08-26-2003, 09:31 PM

ok, i had done that several times...... at this point i think i recompiled the kernel with nothing... even bash seemed to be missing stuff, no apt-get no aptcache etc...... so I am re-installing.......

Question, Where (if possible) do I install kernel source, headers, compiler, and anything else I will frequently use? I know there is taskel, and dselect, but what options????

BTW using debian bf24

fancypiper · 08-26-2003, 09:40 PM

I'm sorry, I am not familiar with the Debian install proceedure, but if you plan on compiling from source code, install what in all other distros I have seen called the "developmental packages" and possibly "software developmental packages"including things like kernel-sources, kernel-headers, etc.

One of these links should give you some specifics on the install.

Installing Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 For Intel x86
The Very Verbose Debian 3.0 Installation Walkthrough
Debian Package Management HOWTO Version 1.1

# Guides to software management
LNAG - How do I install a program I downloaded from the Internet?
Rute Guide's software explanation
You might want to check out CheckInstall to manage source code installations/uninstallation

Bullzeye · 08-26-2003, 09:45 PM

thx fancy, I hope someone can tell me where in the install process to install what.?.?.?

Starting to feel fustrated, most of the help files on the net are so confusing i am more lost then before I read them... tldk or something had a pretty good explaination of alot of stuff... but I guess I need a step by step....

OT: are there voice chat proggies for linux? If I ever get net access working it would be nice to do voice for these help sessions