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Old 11-11-2016, 04:48 AM   #1
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setting up email


I would like an open-source and secure email account. However, I've found I need a domain name and I need to configure the exim4 MTA.
This is a bit complicated because if I wanted a gmail account I simply need to create an account name!

Can someone please advise what I need to do to get a new email address on Icedove or something? I'm using debian jessie.
 
Old 11-11-2016, 06:55 AM   #2
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Hi,

Icedove is Debian Jesse's email client and that it has nothing to do with providing you a domain name for an email address. You need to pick a host provider which can host email services for you. As far as secure email providers, perhaps consider one of these options https://www.maketecheasier.com/secure-email-services/
 
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Old 11-11-2016, 08:34 AM   #3
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Hi,

Icedove is Debian Jesse's email client and that it has nothing to do with providing you a domain name for an email address. You need to pick a host provider which can host email services for you. As far as secure email providers, perhaps consider one of these options https://www.maketecheasier.com/secure-email-services/
Thank you. Is the host provider usually my ISP?
Also, are there free host providers out there?
What host providers do linux users use?
Sorry for all the questions.
 
Old 11-11-2016, 09:00 AM   #4
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Thank you. Is the host provider usually my ISP?
Also, are there free host providers out there?
What host providers do linux users use?
Sorry for all the questions.
No problem at all.

I think I used awkward terms. Host provider was my made up term, yes it is ISP. I honestly do not know if there are any free ISPs out there. Linux users use the same as everyone else, the ISPs are just different at how well they provide their access to the Internet; as in how fast and how reliable.

Perhaps another member who sees this discussion may have some thoughts on free ISPs. To me the main options are to obtain free WIFI from various places which offer it. But as far as someone to provide you email, the free ones are some of those in my original link, or the more well known ones like google, and yahoo. Seems as if you wish to avoid using the larger ones though.
 
Old 11-11-2016, 09:10 AM   #5
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https://protonmail.com/
Never used it but its an option.
 
Old 11-11-2016, 11:09 AM   #6
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I'm currently paying for broadband. Does this mean my broadband provider is my ISP?
Also, is it then normal to connect Icedove to my broadband provider?
 
Old 11-11-2016, 11:15 AM   #7
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You set up an email account and you connect to it. Even Yahoo and other big free email providers offer POP3 and maybe IMAP access nowadays. Your ISP certainly can offer you this service, too. I do not like ISP email, though. They think they have godgiven right to spam you with their UCE.
 
Old 11-11-2016, 11:28 AM   #8
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I'm currently paying for broadband. Does this mean my broadband provider is my ISP?
Also, is it then normal to connect Icedove to my broadband provider?
Hi...

Most ISP's include one or more email accounts with your internet connection. Once configured, Icedove would connect to your ISP's email servers to download your mail.

What is the name of your provider? Perhaps we can help you set of your client (Icedove) if your ISP does, in fact, offer an a email account with your service.

Regards...
 
Old 11-11-2016, 11:34 AM   #9
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right to spam you with their UCE.
Hi...

I'm blessed not to have experienced this, my provider only sends mail that is in conjunction with a service request or billing.

I wonder if if my provider is in the minority, though?

Regards...
 
Old 11-11-2016, 11:44 AM   #10
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You set up an email account and you connect to it. Even Yahoo and other big free email providers offer POP3 and maybe IMAP access nowadays. Your ISP certainly can offer you this service, too. I do not like ISP email, though. They think they have godgiven right to spam you with their UCE.
Yes, but how can you trust a free email provider?
Can I connect Icedove to the free email provider? What is the point of Icedove?
 
Old 11-11-2016, 11:50 AM   #11
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Hi...

Most ISP's include one or more email accounts with your internet connection. Once configured, Icedove would connect to your ISP's email servers to download your mail.
I see. So I'll contact my ISP and ask whether they offer an email service.

Incidentally, how exactly are we supposed to use Icedove?
 
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Yes, but how can you trust a free email provider?
That's a good question, considering what recently happened with Yahoo. But in truth, this could happen to any organization.

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Can I connect Icedove to the free email provider?
With some free providers, you can, like Gmail. Others you can't. It depends on the provider.

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What is the point of Icedove?
Please see here.

Regards...

Last edited by ardvark71; 11-11-2016 at 12:05 PM. Reason: Correction/Added link.
 
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Old 11-11-2016, 11:52 AM   #13
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Icedove is an email client. All you do on the net can be eavesdropped on. Providers like protonmail offer encryption and are relatively secure.
 
Old 11-11-2016, 11:53 AM   #14
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Setting up your own email service ... not Simple but eminently do-able

Hi,
Being somewhat of a skeptic I run my own mail server.

To do this you will need a setup something along the lines of:-

Internet <--> ISP modem <--> YOUR Router <--> Your internal network server and the rest of your home network

Mail from the internet uses port 25. Your ISP may well block this my default to prevent any mail server you have from being used as an open relay. My ISP was quite happy to open this up for me with the caveat that they would block it if my server proved to be an open relay.

Email uses ports 25 and/or 465. Your need 25 open in order to receive email from the outside world for your domain. You will need to set up your email MTA such that sending email via port 25 needs some sort of authorisation.
You will also need to arrange for access to your mail server to receive incoming mail ... here you should also use an authorisation mechanism in order to protect your incoming mail from being filched.

If you wish to use an encrypted link to retrieve your own mail from your server or send mail via your server, you will need to use something like an encryption-capable version of pop3 to retrieve your mail and either use STARTTLS on port 25 or use port 465 to send your email.

Unfortunately, the gory details of how to do all this depend very much upon which MTA you will be using.

Before anything else you will need your own domain name and a static IP address from your ISP to be registered against that name.

If you want more details of my setup contact me privately.

cheers
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Incidentally, how exactly are we supposed to use Icedove?
Hi...

I've been trying to find a nice tutorial on how to use a POP3 client, whether Icedove or in general but, unfortunately, I'm only able to find information on setting one up.

Regards...
 
  


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