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dino123 06-17-2011 05:30 AM

Selecting a linux distro for an old laptop (IBM ThinkPad R40)
 
hello guys,
i got given an old IBM think pad R40 laptop with a broken HDD and im looking for a linux distro for it,

its got 128 mb of ram and a mobile P4 - M 1.80ghz processor all im gonna use it for is basic word processing/taking notes in the field etc.
but i would like to have a reasnoble GUI ive tried Puppy, DSL and SLITAZ but their GUI's are rather crude. any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated

--dino123

dino123 06-17-2011 05:31 AM

also the distro will have to run off a USB flash drive

Genocide_Hoax 06-17-2011 05:38 AM

You can try out mint or puppy linux.

0men 06-17-2011 05:43 AM

You need puppy Linux.

dino123 06-17-2011 05:49 AM

ive tried puppy and i dont like it is there any others

sinuhe 06-17-2011 06:05 AM

Slackware

cascade9 06-17-2011 06:10 AM

Debian 6.0.1a Xfce boots with 70MB or less of RAM use, so it should be OK with 128MB for basic word processing. Lxde, fluxbox etc. would work as well.

dino123 06-17-2011 06:11 AM

still open to any other suggestions

michaelk 06-17-2011 06:12 AM

Some other distributions to look at are antix, lubuntu or tinyme. debian with a lightweight windows manager will also be a good choice. I'm sure others will respond with their favorite lightweight distribution.

Indy452 06-17-2011 06:48 AM

With 128 mb ram your stretching....I can only think of a few that will run ok on that low of ram. Since you don't like Puppy you could try Absolute linux. Or perhaps the newly released Salix fluxbox version, they may work ok for you. But whichever you choose...remember the desktop environment is gonna be either LXDE, ICEWM,, openbox JWM etc....one of the lightweight varieties. You're not gonna get any of the big distros with Gnome,kde etc running on that.

cascade9 06-17-2011 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Indy452 (Post 4388455)
But whichever you choose...remember the desktop environment is gonna be either LXDE, ICEWM,, openbox JWM etc....one of the lightweight varieties. You're not gonna get any of the big distros with Gnome,kde etc running on that.

Quote:

When starting and logging in to gnome, debian hardly uses 85MB RAM (95 MB RAM with swap)!
http://duopetalflower.blogspot.com/2...uses-less.html

Its more than possible for a 'big' distro to be running gnome on less than 128MB of RAM....

Indy452 06-17-2011 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cascade9 (Post 4388466)
http://duopetalflower.blogspot.com/2...uses-less.html

Its more than possible for a 'big' distro to be running gnome on less than 128MB of RAM....

There you have it.

Here is a post taken from the linked Blog..."It is hard to install debian testing on to a netbook with wireless, but it is worth the effort"

After all we are on the newbie forum.

snowday 06-17-2011 08:15 AM

You only have 128mb RAM so don't waste resources on a complicated GUI. Get a simplest GUI (LXDE, IceWM, Fluxbox, etc.) so you have maximum resources available for your primary task: word processing.

Personally I like SliTaz for very old hardware. If you don't like the default theme it is easy to change; just do a quick Google search for "lxde themes" and you'll find dozens of nice choices.

TobiSGD 06-17-2011 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cascade9 (Post 4388466)
http://duopetalflower.blogspot.com/2...uses-less.html

Its more than possible for a 'big' distro to be running gnome on less than 128MB of RAM....

OK, then start an office application on that and you will see it massively swapping. Something running with 85MB after boot is not the same as something running in the use case, here with a word-processor.

I can only second what snowpine has written, lower your sights on the optical part and concentrate on the task you want to get done. Besides the optical part you also have to consider that it is better to use a lightweight application for your tasks, like Abiword instead of Open/Libre Office.

floppy_stuttgart 06-17-2011 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dino123 (Post 4388424)
still open to any other suggestions

TinyCoreLinux. Take a bit time. Go to the forum. Ask for help. It will transform your old thing in a space shuttle.

selfprogrammed 06-17-2011 03:34 PM

Up until a few years ago I was running Slackware 10.2 (Linux 2.4) on a 80MHz 80486, with 32M of memory, and used it for all my research notes, using console (jed editor), and Kwrite on fvwm display manager. It did not visibly use swap until I had loaded 2 or 5 X-Win programs. (It had 64M but could only see 32M, probably because of a screwdriver that got dropped in it)
Your computer resources are adequate.
My new machine is running Slackware 10.2, Linux 2.4, on a 1.6GHz Athlon, with 256M, but I find that Linux 2.6 with KDE bogs it down due to useless things like desktop search.
You can still get Linux 2.4 and it will work fine for any note taking and office work,
and it is not so bloated as the newer stuff, which will be much easier on you if you are executing off a low-bandwidth storage device.

Is this really a question of what distro to use, or is it about what X-windows GUI is going to satisfy your tastes. Small, fast, and plain, lead you to fvwm, twm, etc., gnome has more features, while I think KDE will load the machine the most.

Slackware has installation methods all the way back to floppies (and I did several installations that way before I got this new booting cdrom drive).
It can run slackware Linux off a booting cdrom.
It comes with source for everything so you can custom build kernel to your machine, cutting its size dramatically.

If you do not have CD-ROM, and no HD, then running off a mem-stick is going to get stale real quick. I would suggest getting any size HD in there, the used computer stores have them for $10.

dino123 06-17-2011 08:34 PM

thanks guys for your answers ill look into all of those a few of them sound very promising,

--dino123

cascade9 06-18-2011 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indy452 (Post 4388493)
There you have it.

Here is a post taken from the linked Blog..."It is hard to install debian testing on to a netbook with wireless, but it is worth the effort"

After all we are on the newbie forum.

LOL, that doesnt really say much about gnome running on a major distro @ 85MB.

It might be in the newbie forum, but the OPs has -"Distribution: Lots mainly Ubuntu". I'd guess they arent that new. Even if they are, a debian based distro would be easier for a ubuntu user to work with.

Wireless can be a pain, but not all ThinkPad R40s even have wireless-

Quote:

Detailed specifications - ThinkPad R40

# Actiontec 802.11b wireless LAN on selected models
# High Rate Dual-band 802.11a/b Wireless on selected models
# Cisco Aironet Wireless 802.11b on selected models
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/si...IGR-58209.html

Even when they do have wireless a lot of teh time its Intel Pro which IIRC works a lot easier than some less linux-friendly wireless

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/si...IGR-46024.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by TobiSGD (Post 4388634)
OK, then start an office application on that and you will see it massively swapping. Something running with 85MB after boot is not the same as something running in the use case, here with a word-processor.

I can only second what snowpine has written, lower your sights on the optical part and concentrate on the task you want to get done. Besides the optical part you also have to consider that it is better to use a lightweight application for your tasks, like Abiword instead of Open/Libre Office.

I dont think you would get 'massive swapping'. I havent tried with gnome, I'm not a gnome user and its not installed on any of the boxxen aroudn here.

I do have a Debian Xfce 6.0.1a install, and it boots at 65-70MB or RAM use, and jumped up to 85-90MB when I opened a document in OO.writer. So I would guess that the 85MB @ RAM gnome debian would jump to 105-110MB of RAM use with OO.writer open. If the document was long or complicated enough it would start swapping, but it shouldnt with just OO.writer open.

Not that I would suggest using OO.writer, or gnome debian on a 128MB RAM system, even if it would work. Debian Xfce is pushing it already, but with abiword it should stay under 128MB of RAM use (well, 120-127MB of RAM really, sahred video will steal 1-8MB), even with farily long documents.

dino123 06-18-2011 01:04 AM

There ya go cascade9 i updated my list of distros for you and thanks all of you for your help


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