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Old 05-24-2014, 06:05 AM   #1
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run linux with 2560x1600 moniter, nvidia 8800gts


I hope someone can help me out, i've been unable to use linux because it doesn't work with my apple 2560x1600 30" moniter, although a quick search indicated i'm alone with this problem???

I was running fedora 17 a while ago, for which woudn't live cd boot, but had to install in cmd line mode and then load the graphics driver at instillation for it to work. However on my new computer, I tried installing fedora 18 and it doesn't work, the moniter goes all fuzzy on live boot, and installing with a different moniter, then trying to install properity drivers didn't work, so i tried fedora 17 but theres an install bug with ssd cards or something, so finally I tried ubuntu 14 and the screen goes all fuzzy on live boot again. I need guidance for what to do?


my graphics card is nvidia 8800gts
 
Old 05-24-2014, 10:19 AM   #2
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That's a pretty old card, which may well not be supported by the latest drivers. I had an 8800GTS myself ca 2008, and I had no issues hooking it to my 30" monitor, but I'm guessing it may not be supported any more. You should still install a modern Linux distro, but chances are you're going to have to do it at a lower than native resolution (which is probably why things look "fuzzy"). Do not install the proprietary Nvidia drivers from your distribution, but rather go to Nvidia's web site and download an older version of the driver that supports your code. Follow Nvidia's instructions to install it. You should not, under any circumstances, use an unsupported distribution like Fedora 17; you should use the latest release of Fedora if you want to go that route. You might also try the open source Nouveau driver, as it may support the card, but I have no recent experience with it and can't say for sure.

BTW, a newer video card (e.g. GTX 750) with much better support is available in the US$100-$200 price range. It may be time to consider an upgrade.
 
Old 05-24-2014, 01:57 PM   #3
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even fedora 18 seems to be out of date, compare here.
there are also current distros which specialise in supporting old hardware - try here.

edit: be sure to check out what the maximum desktop size is that your graphic card supports. i don't know the exact name, but there are some limits (not the same as screen resolution).

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Old 05-24-2014, 10:33 PM   #4
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thanks for the replies

I switch to in the integreated graphics on my Z87-GD65 motherboard, and managed to install ubuntu 14, which after a mbr repair boots but
  1. windows 7 is f**ked
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1e...it?usp=sharing
  2. ubuntu won't let me use anything but 1280x1200

    Code:
    root@destroyer-MS-7845:/home/destroyer# lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 VGA
    00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0412] (rev 06)
    	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device [1462:7845]
    	Kernel driver in use: i915
    root@destroyer-MS-7845:/home/destroyer# lspci  
    00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 06)
    00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
    00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06)
    00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI (rev 05)
    00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
    00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB EHCI #2 (rev 05)
    00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
    00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #1 (rev d5)
    00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #4 (rev d5)
    00:1c.7 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port #8 (rev d5)
    00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family USB EHCI #1 (rev 05)
    00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Z87 Express LPC Controller (rev 05)
    00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller 1 [AHCI mode] (rev 05)
    00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 05)
    02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros Killer E2200 Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 13)
    03:00.0 SATA controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1062 Serial ATA Controller (rev 01)

how can I change the resoltion?
 
Old 05-25-2014, 05:22 AM   #5
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I don't even see the 8800GTS in your lspci listing. Are you sure that the card is installed and working correctly? It looks like you have an onboard graphics controller as well. It should have its own DI port. What are you plugging your monitor into?
 
Old 05-26-2014, 02:39 AM   #6
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sorry if i didn't make this clearer, I removed the 8800gts and switch to the integrated graphics
 
Old 05-26-2014, 03:49 AM   #7
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nevermind I've found a simple solution, I switch to an old ATI 4550 and thats sorted everything out, thanks
 
Old 05-26-2014, 02:56 PM   #8
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I'm glad it worked out for you. Sorry that I did not catch that you had swapped to the integrated graphics. You probably could have installed the Intel video drivers and gotten this to work, but I'm glad that switching tho the ATI solved it for you. I haven't used Intel integrated graphics for awhile, but I recall thatthe driver support is pretty good.

Feel free to mark this thread [SOLVED] if everything is working OK.
 
Old 05-29-2014, 03:41 AM   #9
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That's a pretty old card, which may well not be supported by the latest drivers. I had an 8800GTS myself ca 2008, and I had no issues hooking it to my 30" monitor, but I'm guessing it may not be supported any more. You should still install a modern Linux distro, but chances are you're going to have to do it at a lower than native resolution (which is probably why things look "fuzzy"). Do not install the proprietary Nvidia drivers from your distribution, but rather go to Nvidia's web site and download an older version of the driver that supports your code. Follow Nvidia's instructions to install it. You should not, under any circumstances, use an unsupported distribution like Fedora 17; you should use the latest release of Fedora if you want to go that route. You might also try the open source Nouveau driver, as it may support the card, but I have no recent experience with it and can't say for sure.

BTW, a newer video card (e.g. GTX 750) with much better support is available in the US$100-$200 price range. It may be time to consider an upgrade.
Yes, I know this doesnt matter now, but....

Wow. Where on earth are you getting your information?

8800GTS is supported by the latest nVidia closed drivers (currently 3XX.XX, depeding on what you call 'the latest' its either 331.79, 334.21, or 337.19 beta)-

http://www.nvidia.com/download/drive...px/75821/en-us

I've got a 8600GT here and its running the 331.79 drivers no problems.

It will go to 2560x1600, and running the monitor at less than that resoltuion will make it fuzzy, its not a CRT.

The probably is les likley to be the 8800GTS and far more likely to be some EDID problem (EDID = extended display identification data).

Its easy to 'force' the resolution from the nVidia control panel with the closed drivers installed. Or from xorg.conf with the closed drivers, or the open soruce 'nouveau' drivers.

I would not suggest using old drivers from nVidia for the 8800GTS. Aside from being rather pointless, some of the older drivers have security issues. I'd normally suggest using the drivers from the distros repos over a maunal install of the nvidia drivers...the drivers in the repos are the best tested for that distro, its less likely to cause problems, and often security patches are backported as well.

BTW, GTX750 has _worse_ support than the 8800GTS. GTX750 will only run with the 337.19 beta or 334.21 drivers. The 8800GTS can use pretty much all the nVidia drivers back to 173.XX, and has a much better chance of running with the nouveau drivers than a GTX750. Personally, I wouldnt risk a GTX750 with nouveau for a few years yet......
 
Old 05-29-2014, 04:12 AM   #10
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I know what your trying to say btmiller
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Do not install the proprietary Nvidia drivers from your distribution, but rather go to Nvidia's web site and download an older version of the driver that supports your code.
But you have to be careful actually you want the latest update of that line of driver. for the newer mesa and xorg. Nvidia has a section named beta drivers and older
drivers. What you want is and you will see it that the older drivers have been updated to work with newer xorg.

if the older original fails to build look and see if it has a newer revision of that driver. the 750GTX ti specs
for older systems with out power supply

it truley has made my old AMD Phenom II X4 965 cpu mated with an old asus MA3 motherboard come to life. It blew away my 640GT with 2 gigs of ram.
for under 150 dollars. that machine has become my steambox ? I can play everything on high. wild.

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Old 05-29-2014, 07:15 AM   #11
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it truley has made my old AMD Phenom II X4 965 cpu mated with an old asus MA3 motherboard come to life. It blew away my 640GT with 2 gigs of ram.
for under 150 dollars. that machine has become my steambox ? I can play everything on high. wild.
If you're a gamer, a GTX760 is IMO a much beter choice than the GTX750.

For the non gamers, both cards are a waste of time.....
 
Old 05-29-2014, 10:45 AM   #12
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Unless you use CUDA
 
Old 05-29-2014, 12:13 PM   #13
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On a few different systems, I have needed to force the resolution with old nVidia cards:

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Its easy to 'force' the resolution from the nVidia control panel with the closed drivers installed.
I never could. The choices just weren't there.

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Or from xorg.conf with the closed drivers
I've done that a lot and I still don't find it easy. It usually takes me several tries to get the details right. Most mistakes result in no GUI at all and no useful error messages in the log file.

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or the open soruce 'nouveau' drivers.
That is another path at which I went through a lot of trial and failure and eventually gave up.

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The probably is les likley to be the 8800GTS and far more likely to be some EDID problem (EDID = extended display identification data).
In my experience, as soon as you have any resolution problem at all, EDID is likely doing you more harm than good. In xorg.conf you can turn off EDID entirely and force everything.

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Old 05-29-2014, 03:05 PM   #14
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If you're a gamer, a GTX760 is IMO a much beter choice than the GTX750.

For the non gamers, both cards are a waste of time.....
well had to try the Maxwell gpu chip out. Not a gamer but nice steam box made from Slackware.

Last edited by Drakeo; 05-29-2014 at 03:07 PM.
 
Old 06-01-2014, 11:36 PM   #15
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johnsfine- yeah, modding xorg is a bit of a pain the 1st time, and even after that it can be 'interesting'. Still, it seems to me that you were having EDID problems....as usual. Amazing how often they pop up.

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Unless you use CUDA
If the GTX750 was the only card which was CUDA capable, sure, but CUDA runs on pretty much every nVidia card from 8XXX onward....

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well had to try the Maxwell gpu chip out. Not a gamer but nice steam box made from Slackware.
Sure, maxwell is one of the most interesting things to come out of nvidia for years now, but its still way to new even for a midend 'gamers' card. A GTX750 for a streambox? LOL, yeah, if it floats your boat, but thats way overkill. Not like there is any real use for VDPAU/pure video feature set 'E' for 99.9%+ of users now.
 
  


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