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Old 07-22-2011, 05:05 AM   #1
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Rhce rhcss rhcds


Hello everyone ! please help me out with the confusions i have about these courses ....
I am a 1st sem MCA student .. i want to build my career in linux technology ... so i m planning to take up red hat courses ..

So please help me out with the following

1)The Basic Red Hat certification is RHCE ... what is its scope and since i hold a masters at the end of 3 years .. what job do i get if i solely go in search of job based on RHCE certification and what salary can i expect ...

2)After RHCE is it advisable to spend from my pocket and do a RHCSS or RHCDS... suppose i successfully complete any one of these what job and salary can i expect.

please help me out with the following ... waiting for your valuable advice.

Thank you
 
Old 07-22-2011, 05:27 AM   #2
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Hi suhas23,
RHCE can lead you to Linux System Administration jobs. RHCE gives you insight into Linux essentials, System Administration and Linux Security. As far as RHCSS or RHCDS is concerned visit redhat's official site and gather the required information. But since you are doing MCA concentrate more on programming skills which will land you in a generalized job profile and then you can go to specialized domains.
 
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Old 07-22-2011, 05:43 AM   #3
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Thank You Mayur for u r valuadble advice
 
Old 07-22-2011, 10:38 AM   #4
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Thank You Mayur for u r valuadble advice
I'd have to disagree with that advice. And really, if you're in college, you need to spell out your words. Text-speak junk is a VERY bad habit to get in to.

A certification is next to meaningless. I know lots of folks with Windows 2000 certifications...not much good these days, is it? A certification has just a LITTLE value. Far better to really KNOW the subject, rather than taking a certification test (where there are practice exams, books, etc., to help you PASS that test). In an interview, I will test people with certifications MUCH more in-depth, than someone without, to see if their knowledge is real, or from an RHCE manual.

Your certifications won't lay out your career path, and you don't need a certification to move into a different speciality...just knowledge, and the ability to demonstrate it.
 
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Old 07-22-2011, 09:57 PM   #5
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Thank you TBOne . But isn't it better if we have a certification when we search for a job ? And can you please explain me the scope of RHCE in the near future please .
 
Old 07-22-2011, 10:59 PM   #6
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I am not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with anyone, I just have a different point of view. I understand wanting to get a Linux certification and actually encourage it, but I would go with something that is more vendor-neutral, meaning doesn't care which distro you are using or training on. The number of decent-sized companies using Red Hat vs. any other distro is slim. I would steer towards certifications from Linux Professional Institute or CompTIA. Also, I would take the advice from mayursingru and also do some extra training/certification in another field to round out your knowledge, such as programming or my personal choice, security. Just my 2 cents worth, and wish you the best of luck.

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Old 07-23-2011, 03:40 AM   #7
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Hi suhas23,
As you are doing MCA and you still have 2.5 years of education left and you want to concentrate on Linux then its better you choose your academic projects in Linux which will enhance your knowledge base by leaps and bounds. Also some Googling will definitely give you a comprehensive data regarding future growth in Open Source Technologies and you can join Linux User Group(LUG) nearest to your region. Don't limit yourself to RHCE as mentioned in first post i.e increase your technical acumen to the highest level in whichever field you desire.
 
Old 07-23-2011, 03:50 AM   #8
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Hi akakingess,
I don't know whether this will be a violation of LQ policies if it is please feel free to move my post to suitable forum. Actually i have few queries regarding security market and its growth. It will be really helpful if you could answer them.

How is Information Security Market in USA?
How is the growth perspective in IS regarding PenTest, ISO 27K Implementation?
I have 9 months experience in IS, So what should be my next approach in coming 6 months or a year?
It will be great if resolve these queries on my via mail.
 
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Old 07-23-2011, 05:22 PM   #9
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Hi akakingess,
I don't know whether this will be a violation of LQ policies if it is please feel free to move my post to suitable forum. Actually i have few queries regarding security market and its growth. It will be really helpful if you could answer them.

How is Information Security Market in USA?
How is the growth perspective in IS regarding PenTest, ISO 27K Implementation?
I have 9 months experience in IS, So what should be my next approach in coming 6 months or a year?
It will be great if resolve these queries on my via mail.

Tell you what ... from your questions it sounds as if you're
passionate only about job-security and income; in that case
scrap IT, and become a banking lending advisor or a real estate
agent, even an undertaker (they never go out of business).

If you have a passion for anything within IT, like I have for
Linux, and OpenSource as concept, do whatever you really care
about, not what has the best prognosis for 3 years from now.


Cheers,
Tink
 
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Old 07-23-2011, 08:36 PM   #10
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Thank you TBOne . But isn't it better if we have a certification when we search for a job?
Well, as I said before, for ME, the answer is NO. Again, there are lots and LOTS of people with 'certifications', that don't actually have the KNOWLEDGE that it's supposed to represent. If all you're going to do is take practice exams and get certifications, then you are missing out on the real work and day-to-day knowledge, that you REALLY need to do a good job. If you've GOT the knowledge, and put it into practice (and can demonstrate it during an interview), then you will easily find a job. If all you've got is a certification...like everyone ELSE does...why should I give your resume a second look?
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And can you please explain me the scope of RHCE in the near future please .
No, and who could? If you want to know what the 'scope' of an RHCE is, read up on it on the RedHat website. No one knows what the future will bring, what certifications will be important or not. Which goes around again to "get the KNOWLEDGE not the CERTIFICATION". As akakingess said, going for a certification that's vendor-neutral is often better.
 
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Old 07-23-2011, 08:39 PM   #11
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Hi akakingess,
I don't know whether this will be a violation of LQ policies if it is please feel free to move my post to suitable forum. Actually i have few queries regarding security market and its growth. It will be really helpful if you could answer them.

How is Information Security Market in USA?
How is the growth perspective in IS regarding PenTest, ISO 27K Implementation?
I have 9 months experience in IS, So what should be my next approach in coming 6 months or a year?
It will be great if resolve these queries on my via mail.
Yes, and it would be great if someone came and did my yard work for me. However, this is a community forum...we're not going to email you answers to your questions.

How, exactly, is anyone supposed to know what YOU should do in the next year or so? We know NOTHING about you, your existing knowledge, capabilities, etc., that we would need to make ANY sort of wild guess. Information security is important everywhere, not just in the US, and it (along with the rest of IT), is growing similarly. If you only have 9 months of experience, and want to get taken seriously on ANY job, then GET MORE EXPERIENCE. I wouldn't dream of hiring someone for a security-role, that only had 9 months under their belts.
 
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Old 07-24-2011, 12:59 AM   #12
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Hi TBOne
I thought a certification means representing our knowledge in a particular field through it . I heard that a certification would add weightage to our resume . Correct me if i am wrong . How can we gain a certificate without having any knowledge in the field . Also i have heard that a Global certification from RED HAT is not easy to obtain until unless we posses some real technical skills is it .? please guide me through.

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Old 07-24-2011, 01:01 AM   #13
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Thank you mayur and akakingess for you advice .. please guide me through in the future if i come across any confusions.

Regards
Suhas
 
Old 07-24-2011, 11:22 AM   #14
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I thought a certification means representing our knowledge in a particular field through it.
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I heard that a certification would add weightage to our resume.
It depends on the place where YOU live.

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Correct me if i am wrong . How can we gain a certificate without having any knowledge in the field.
Indeed you can't. But at the same time for gaining knowledge, you don't have to get a certificate, always. Ever thought of practicing at home until you stand on your own legs?

1. Get this book: Michael Jang: http://www.amazon.com/RHCSA-Linux-Ce.../dp/0071765654
2. Get a computer and install CentOS on it: http://www.centos.org/
3. Start practicing and continue til you feel you are done.
4. Then for the sake of showing off the certificate, join the Red Hat center for 6 months (to get an idea of what goes on there) and give the exam then.

Following the above steps in reverse order will only harm you.

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Old 07-24-2011, 03:14 PM   #15
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Hi TBOne
I thought a certification means representing our knowledge in a particular field through it . I heard that a certification would add weightage to our resume . Correct me if i am wrong . How can we gain a certificate without having any knowledge in the field . Also i have heard that a Global certification from RED HAT is not easy to obtain until unless we posses some real technical skills is it .? please guide me through.
Anisha's answer is right on the money.

A certification does NOT mean you have the knowledge...it means you passed a test. HOW you passed the test varies...some folks have years of real-world experience. Some buy a book, and take the practice tests and memorize answers. Both of them will pass and get 'certified'. But only one of them KNOWS the subject. This is not only true for Linux certifications, but for ANY certifications, which is why I give them very little weight.
 
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