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Old 06-12-2004, 07:16 PM   #1
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questions regarding dual-boot (fedora and Win XP)


Hello, I have never used linux before, and am very interested in Fedora 1. My questions are as follows:

(Note: this regards to a dual-boot)

1. I would like linux and windows to share the same space. How exactly do I achieve this? How much space is needed?

2. After downloading fedora (1) I burn it to a CD? what? I dont understand that part. What if all of it doesnt fit on one CD?

3. If I were to achieve this dual-boot, how would I switch between the two operating systems?
 
Old 06-12-2004, 07:38 PM   #2
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Well, the solution to all those questions is... it depends :-).
1. It depends on how much space do you have. Basically, Linux must have these partitions:
1. / or root: to fit the Operating System. It's recomended to be 3 Gb (or bigger).
2. Swap: tipically its size ain't bigger than twice your RAM memory.
3. This is the part in which you can distribute it as you need. You can make a partition "home" (here it'll be all the files for the users you create), and much more (/usr, /var,...). Newbie users (like me) use to create only the /home partition.
4. Don't forget that the Windows partition must be the active one, primary.
So, the parttion could be: 1) Windows, 2) Linux /, 3) swap, 4) home 5) a parttion for FAT32, so you can use it with both Win and Fedora. The size depends on your disc's one!

2. Yeah, you must download the .iso files and burn them to CDs. E.g., with Nero or any similar program. Remember: the iso files are the ones FC2-i386-disc1.iso... there are 4 files, so it'll take you 4 Cds (with Fedora Core 2, in ver. 1 I don'w remember how much CDs were).

3. When you install Fedora you'll decide where you want to install Lilo or Grub (these are 2 programs than run at the beggining and let you select windows or fedora). Maybe yo can decide whetever to install it in MBR or in a floppy.

Well, I hope you could understand anything of this crazy reply (if not, guess someone would clear all with a good post). Forgive me for my bad English!
 
Old 06-12-2004, 07:44 PM   #3
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First, regarding question 1.

I'm at my computer management screen, and I have 70 GB avalable, so that should be great. I'm still very unclear as to what is known as "partitioning". I'm not sure how to do this.

What is FAT32? where do i get it? etc.
Same with "swap"

Which is better, lilo or grub? which would you recomend and why?

EDIT: and I understand that i need 4 separate CDs but will it prompt me for each one/ when do i know which to use?

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Old 06-12-2004, 07:56 PM   #4
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I was going to edit my post, but well... here's a guide in the forum of Fedora:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=192739

First, for parttions, I'll show you my distribution:
In disk 1:
1: Windows (6 Gb).
2. A partition in format FAT32. There are 2 main formats: NTFS and FAT32, NTFS is only written by Windows (linux can read it but not write it). You can see what is your partition type in "my PC"--> C:--> propierties. The rest of the disk.
In disk 2: Linux
3. / for Linux (4 Gb)
4. "swap" is a type of partition, it's something like the memory that Linux uses (I don't know how to explain it cos I'm not sure of what it is). In my PC, RAM memory= 192 Mb, Swap is 400 Mb.
5. Home parttion: the rest

Lilo or Grub? I don't know, I've only used Lilo. I don't know if they differ a lot, but I guess they don't (hope noone angries).

P.D.: about the CDs: yes, it will promt you to enter the 4 CDs one by one. All you have to do is to enter the CD1 at the beggining of your PC, and when it needs the CD2 it'll tell you "please insert CD2. I've almost forgotten it!

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Old 06-12-2004, 07:59 PM   #5
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You say disk 1/ disk 2.
Does this mean that you dont have both linux and windows on one drive?
 
Old 06-12-2004, 08:01 PM   #6
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Sorry, it was my fault. Yeah, I have Windows in one disk and Linux in another, so they're fisically separated. But that's not obligatory, you can have both O.S. in the same disk.
 
Old 06-12-2004, 08:04 PM   #7
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That makes it alot clearer. I am still unclear on what I do to set some space for windows and some for linux. Where do i go? How do i know i've done it right?
 
Old 06-12-2004, 08:17 PM   #8
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(First of all, make a copy of your data!!!!)
Well, as I'm not a big user of PCs, I've done a part of it with a program called partition magic or someone similar. With it you'll have to do the partitions for Windows (it's very "graphical", you'll see). and let free space for Fedora.
That is to say, let's imagine you have a disk of 70 Gb :-)
so this is what I'd do:
make a partition for Windows for about 7 Gb in type NTFS. Besides it, a partition in FAT32 of about 40-50 Gb (here you can use it for Windows' programs, downloads, internet,...). And the rest is "free space". Close Windows and reboot!
Insert Fedora Cd1 (well, I've done it with Mandrake). Mandrake has a util for creating partitions. Now we're going to change the space that is allocated (free, non-formatted). The Mandrake program is very graphicall too. The partitions are /, swap and home.

So, here we go... If I were you, this would be my disk:
1. Windows: 7 Gb, in NTFS.
2. 40-50 Gb, in FAT32.
3. /: 4-5 Gb.
4. Swap
5. home: the rest.

Or if you haven't things very clear on how to distribute Linux space, Mandrake lets you select "use free space" (or something like that, it makes the partition for Linux in the free space you've made with partition Magic. I guess Fedora'd have another util similar.

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Old 06-12-2004, 08:27 PM   #9
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are there any programs such as partition magic that are free? I cant find any, and is there any way to do this without a program?
 
Old 06-13-2004, 05:35 AM   #10
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Well, you can use fdisk, the command for MS-DOS (that is to say, boot with the CD of Windows 98, and then run fdisk). Thought I don't remember if it lets you "redimensionase" your actual windows' partition, I guess you must delete your actual partition and then make a new one.
 
Old 07-05-2004, 08:11 PM   #11
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you can get partition magic for free from kazaa, although this is illeagal......
 
Old 07-05-2004, 09:00 PM   #12
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As a tip, install Windows first. Then install Fedora. Make sure when you install Windows that you create a partition that doesn't take up all of your hard disk space. I say leave at least 10 gig to Linux (not many programs out for it yet). Leave more for Windows (a lot of people use it so the developers have tons of programs for Windows, which just stinks. They should make more programs for linux. people are too dumb and succumb to the power of M$...anyway). When you boot Fedora from the CD, choose the options: automatic partitioning, use free space on hard drive, and review. Check if the automatic partitioning does what you want. You can make the partition smaller if you want to install another operating system. Then install it. And then you're finished. Well that's what I did for Fedora Core 2.

Fedora Core 2 is on 4 CDs. 1 ISO per cd. If one still doesn't fit on a CD (they should!) try selecting SuperLink in Nero or switching to a bigger CD (80 min). Hope that helps
 
  


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